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Its a fact that magic comes from nature,nature forces,nature spirits whatever you call it...but what is above nature,what/who created nature,what are we really dealing with?I wanna and i hope i'll hear all types of answers:beliefs, philosophical opinions etc.
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That's a very difficult question to answer accurately, but I'll give it a shot... I believe it's chaos, the reason being it's a force that is truly free and is what it decides to be. in truth it could still be considered a force of nature by some as an existential opposite of Order to maintain balance in the universre, but in fact Chaos predates order. it existed as the shapeless void, and remains everchanging. I know Chaos gets a bad rep but it isn't some evil force of mindless destruction, but instead a force of freedom and change. Although it can be a force of destruction if it decides to. Beautiful, free and wild. Chaos is a force to be reckoned with. In fact even nature can be Chaotic.
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Re: What is above nature?
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Nothing

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Personally I think it all boils down to energy. Matter is made from it, physics is governed by it, Spirituality and magic operate through it. While energy expresses itself in different ways, it can be seen at the root of everything we experience.
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I disagree that magic comes solely from nature, magic is subtle energy found in all life, including the voids in-between. I also believe magic comes from within the human being and channeled from realms other than the natural world.

As for where it comes from, who created it. We could be here all day and none of us would be correct!

Personally I go through days in which I believe the universe was a result of a cosmic love making ritual. Other days in which I believe we are an (un)happy accident. I go through every day realising it does not matter!

What is above nature?

Nothing. We have tried to conquer nature but we never will. Just as the weeds grow through cracks in the man made flags, so will nature always find a route to survive. Without nature we would not even exist. We depend on Her to survive.

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it depends on the path you follow so we can't give this answer because there is no answer.

if you're Wiccan you could say the Lord and Lady, but we are not bellow the Gods in Paganism, we walk beside them as equals [but more of a teacher-student relationship]

some witches don't believe in spells or Gods but believe in magick as a natural energy that brings changes [like the seasons, caterpillars to butterflies, even technology could be argued a part of magickal energy] so short answer, it's what you feel is right.
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i disagree with you hadit.
Salt the earth and plants never grow back. nuke the ground and everything dies for 50 years. Humans have the ability to trump nature but not without spending tons of money or destroying everyone. The earth never loses because we can not allow it too. we live here. We have a huge dome of snow in the desert. we cut down trees to create comfortable habitats everywhere. We are always trumping nature and getting better at it with time.
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butterflys are scary. they literally melt themselves as worms and turn the goop into a butterfly
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