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Hello I would like to have any tips or directions for any spells a Christian can do ( without any sort of extra belief) I want to adhere closely to Christianity as possible, but I do seek ways to increase my divine knowledge through witchcraft or whatever, I would prefer to be directed to spells here or books here or anywhere else, as long as they do not include beliefs of any other non biblical deities or anything that changes my core Faith, hermetic Christianity is okay, just help please :)
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In the literal sense Witchcraft can only be performed by witches, hence the name Witch, Craft. Secondly according to Christianity you only need the power of the Abrahamic God. Another thing to understand is that you do not need to "believe" in spirits to call upon them in the same sense of how the word "belief" is used in Christianity. In Christianity the word "belief" means to "trust" or to "hold your faith strongly to the Christian God" In witchcraft because it is such as wide collection of pagan practices the word "belief" is like saying "understand how (spirit name) works" like to give a non spiritual example , to belief in a money spell means you understand the money has to come from somewhere, you do not need to devote your life to the spirit you called upon to assist you in the money spell. In terms of looking for a magical practice that includes Christianity, there kind of isn't one. As that's the whole point of Christianity, maybe you get away with something like Catholicism , I don't know if I'm spelling that right but it's basically "witchcraft" but they work with Saints as things from the bible, though personally I wouldn't call that witchcraft per say because to me Witchcraft means "pre-christian" magical practice performed by the "people of the land" etc. Please understand I mean no disrespect and my words are just how I view the world, but personally I do not believe Christians can perform spells as what would that look like? I mean with spells it's the witch making it happen. But I do hope you are able to find what your looking for and obtain enlightenment or what ever it is your seeking.

Thank you for your time

SpiritWitch8
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Oh okay, basically i just wanted magic that doesn't depends on God's of other faiths, something syncretic?
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For that I would simply suggest prayer, as it is the cornerstone on Christian methodology. Though there is Kabbalistic work that involves a short of spell or ritual process as well. For example there is a form of Hebrew magic, which is an Abraham's practice and so could be considered Christian ... depending on how narrow your interpretation is.

One thing to bear in mind is that there is more overlap than the average person realizes between the processes of prayer and magic. Both can be elaborately ritualistic, Both are largely based on the influence of gaining help/support through an immaterial higher/divine outside force, and Both are fueled through spiritual study and observation and relating it to the practical events around us. The elements are so interchangeable that you can learn from one by studying the other.

For example, if you want a good, applicable, and reliable formula for building a spell or prayer/appeal? Examine the lord's prayer. As simple and prevalent as it is, few people seem to understand why it isso effective. They just treat it like a car; Dunno how it works, I just hit the pedal and it moves forward really fast. And yet a great many people depend on them despite not knowing anything more than 'gas goes in, car goes vroom'.

Our Lord, who art in heaven; Identify who/what you are calling to.

Hallowed be thy name; Offer respect and recognition.

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in heaven; Recognize the purview, authority, and responsibilities/governance of who you are calling on.

Give us our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. lead us not into temptation, and deliver us from evil; Make your request/state the goal of your appeal. Define what you want.

For yours is the power and glory, for ever and ever, amen; Close the appeal by recognizing their influence and saying "thank-you."

The prayer has changed slightly over the years, but it was given not just as a prayer, but literal instruction on -how to- pray.

Learning magic is not dissimilar. Learning spells to cast is one thing, with many styles and methods and centers of worship or study. The trick, though, is digging in and understanding -how to- cast. Figure that out, understand it, and you can apply that formula to whatever faith you want. In that regard, Christian prayer and Wiccan spell become essentially one and the same. Because it becomes not just the actions you choose but where you choose to direct them.

To flip the coin, We've seen how a Christian prayer can apply to magic. Now let's reverse it with a basic process of making a sacred space.

Begin by drawing a circle. The circle represents the unity of things. Alpha and omega/beginning and end. The sun in the sky, the cycles of nature, the progress of time. As he is in all things, the presence of God is all around us.

Stand within the circle and recognize his presence. Call on God's angels and invite them to your space. Perhaps ask Michael to draw his fiery sword and make your space safe from evil. Or ask Gabriel, the Lord's messenger, to join you and help you contemplate your purpose in His plan. Or invite any of the others of the hierarchy of angels- from guardians, archangel,cherubim, seraphim, to the angelic virtues or dominions.. Call on the help of whatever host is most relevant to your goals intended for your 'casting'. Feel their presence and influence as you perform your working or prayer.

Finally, one might release the circle by thanking the angels who came for their blessed appearance and help in manifesting God's will- regardless of what that will might be. (For as an old friend of mine once put it, 'God answers all prayers. But sometimes that answer is "no."') . And then bidding the angels farewell and give thanks to the glory of God.

And thus a magical process might be used to a Christian method and concept. What defines a process as Christian is that it is centered solely on God, his heavenly host, and recognizing him as the one true guiding force at the core of literally everything, with no being or will placed above (or even alongside) him.
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Thank you, I might delve into Wicca and abrahamic magic au
revoir
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Just want to remind you that this site has a very strict "no non english" around here. You can't even write in latin in the forms in the context of a latin incantation, so even though I know what your saying I don't want to see you getting in trouble.
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Re: Christian spells
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If you are interested in Christian magic and only want to worship the Christian God, then Wicca is not for you. Wicca is specifically a Pagan religion which honors a Lady of the Moon and the Horned Lord (not Satan). There are some people who try to blend the two, but once you do that you are practicing something which is neither Christianity nor Wicca. This article might clear up the differences for you.

Christian Wicca - https://www.spellsofmagic.com/coven_ritual.html?coven=735&am...

And here is an article that I wrote about what Wiccans believe. Note that Wicca contains nothing about sin, a Savior, or any of the core beliefs of Christianity.

What Wicca Is and Isn't - https://www.spellsofmagic.com/read_post.html?post=637268

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Thank you for your insight
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Can't you write it if you include translation? Crowley made a pretty strong case for the "barbarous words of evocation" as having power of their own. I mean, would it be OK if, describing the Liber Samekh rite, I wrote, "Hekas, hekas, estoi bebeloi!" (Depart, depart, let the unclean depart!)? See? Foreign tongue with translation.
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Re: Christian spells
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Fine post and I tend to agree. (For what that's worth.)

On the other hand,I know theistic Satanists in my tradition who maintain that the "danger" posed by the Goetia's demons is due to the old magi being both traffickers with demons and semi-practicing Christians or Jews. Types that tried to have their cake and eat it too.So, naturally, they could only approach the demons using coercive methods.One only "binds" enemies, after all. One notes, for example, that figures like John Dee and Abramelin were, by their lights, "faithful to" their Judeo-Christian creeds.Indeed, Dee recorded the Enochian system without using it or advocating its use.

The upshot here is that there have been (and presumably still are) magi who are practicing Christians and dabblers in magic.(In another forum, one of the more insightful regular posters is a Kabbalist by practice/ Christian by faith. I like the guy, while thinking he is nuking futz conceptually.) Whether they are on solid ground or thin ice, the issue will tell.I advise OP to read and ponder the First Commandment and see if he can square that with magick. The Bible itself tends toward a negative answer there.
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