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In my studies I have realized and come to some conclusion. That there are gods that are stronger than other gods
. So it would make sense that a deity would be able to ascend past being a god. And go to another plane of existence and become a necessary element. Becoming more than just one trick pony.

Prime example Buddha. He was just a man and he ascended and became more. If he could do it then just about anyone else can.

The real truth of the matter is it's all about determination the need and want must be simultaneously in your DNA. It must be something that it needs to be all that you think about all that you'll ever want. The only thing that matters.

Hours of meditation I believe that you can surpass what is laid out before all humans. And beat death itself
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The ideas you mention have a lot of similarity to more Eastern (and new-age) philosophies. The running themes, especially for Yoga and Buddhism, involve a process of evolution of soul. Usually through some combination of Karma (balancing the consequences of past deeds), a process of enlightenment through focused effort, and the continuous nature of soul/consciousness outside/beyond physical existence.

The core idea is that humans are not bodies that then have souls. Instead, we are souls who happen to currently inhabit a body. And the purpose is for a soul to gain experience, make choices, encounter mistakes and challenges, learn from them, and gain wisdom experience and enrichment.

Eventually, a soul learns and grows enough to gain as much enlightenment as they are going to from physical experience, and so choosing to incarnate is no longer necessary to learn/grow. ...Though a few may choose to anyways, to teach or lead others in spiritual matters. (For example the Dalai lama)

Most, though, presumably choose to stop incarnating, and transition from 'student' to a specifically spiritual role and become the guides, guardians, watchers, etc that in turn connect with and assist/teach others.

By being teachers, they in turn learn more and grow themselves in the path/function they followed into their new spiritual/nonphysical existence. In turn, also being supported and taught by those still higher up the proverbial ladder, who themselves are working to connect with ... Whatever the next stage is. Some say re-integratuon with the collective unconscious... others think perhaps some great energetic source... Theories are varied.

So when someone is calling on help from a guide or guardian, it is akin to connecting with another being who has already gone through a process of growth and experience, and their goal is usually to help you in reaching the next stages.

Personally, I feel like the concepts of Gods and their roles differ some from this, as they seem more like archetypes to me. Representations or anthropomorphisations of natural phenomena, human qualities (war, love, justice, etc) and such. Less the process of growth and evolution of the soul, more about the ... Mechanics of the world I guess. At least that's the best analogy I can manage, given where I am with my own ideas and understanding.

When one works with a God, it is about worshipping the teacher. When a person works with a guide, it is about learning the lessons.

You might find ideas like Kriya Yoga interesting. It is a meditative practice brought to the west by Sri Paramahansa Yogananda and through a group called the Self-Realization Fellowship.

Otherwise perhaps books like 'Journey of souls' and 'destiny of souls' by Michael Newton. They are a little bit of a dry read, but interesting nonetheless.


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