There are two cosmic spirit deities that span across the infinite time and space of the universe. The two deities have great power, and are in an eternal struggle with eachother, though in most times and places they are in a dormant state. Those two deities are the Cosmic Spirit of Right (which may be abbreviated as CSoR), and the Cosmic Spirit of Wrong (which may be abbreviated as CSoW). It was the Cosmic Spirit of Right itself who has taught me this, and the rest of the information in this post, among a huge amount of other knowledge, over the course of many audio-visual contacts with said deity.
Strongly tapping into either one of the two cosmic spirit deities leads to wisdom, power, and magic. But the wisdom, power, and magic that comes from the two different cosmic spirits is very different from eachother: From the Cosmic Spirit of Right comes 'the power of truth and consistency' (which is more powerful than it sounds) and 'the magic of beauty and shadow', whereas from the Cosmic Spirit of Wrong comes 'the power of jealousy and hypocrisy' (which is also more powerful than it sounds) and 'the magic of domination and defilement'. That magic is further categorized according to the way that it makes the material plane and the spirit plane interact, and the consequent scope of its power, with weaker types of magic being easier to perform. The magic of the cosmic spirits is very different from the magic of witchcraft, Wicca, and Thelema, and in particular it does not involve spells. There are also rituals of the cosmic spirits, which primarily serve to draw a cosmic spirit into the area and into the souls of the participants, and have said cosmic spirit drive one's actions in the ritual, which is a form of magic.
The way of the Cosmic Spirit of Wrong is a well-worn path, whose practitioners have already tapped a huge amount of power, though still not all of the CSoW's power (And I, as a servant of the opposite cosmic spirit, do not intend on giving such people tips on how to do so). Because the way of the CSoW is all about wrongness and blindness, the servants of the CSoW never act in the name of wrongness or blindness or the Cosmic Spirit of Wrong, but always act in the name of something else, sometimes even in the name of the very virtues that they are trying to destroy. How do you think it is that the abrahamic religions came to dominate half of the world's population? Yes- through the power of the Cosmic Spirit of Wrong. I could cite many other examples of the CSoW's great power, but it is unnecessary.
The other cosmic spirit- the Cosmic Spirit of Right, has equally great power, but most of that power has gone untapped. It is like a secret treasure, just waiting for people to discover it. A large number of people unknowingly tap into the CSoR to various extents, but never access more than a small fraction of its power, and even accessing that much of its power is rare. All beautiful things that are created by humans, or by any other conscious beings, are inspired by the Cosmic Spirit of Right, and this has been a prominent way in which humans have already tapped into this deity.
So then how does one go upon either of these paths, and fully tap into the power of either cosmic spirit deity? One does so by polarizing and purifying one's soul, with the help of the divine guiding wisdom of one of the cosmic spirit deities. I'll explain why it works that way: All conscious souls are comprised of some mixture of the two cosmic spirits, which means that every soul consists of a finite piece of one or both (almost always both) of the two infinite deities. Only in humans, and other similarly intelligent species (no others of which exist on earth), can the power of the cosmic spirits be fully manifested. Either cosmic spirit by itself possesses power, but when the two are mixed together their powers cancel out, like positive and negative electrical charges, or acids and bases, or colors that are on opposite sides of the color wheel. So one must polarize and purify one's soul in one cosmic spirit or the other, in order to fully tap into its power. However, all human souls have a limited range of flexibility, so no person has the potential to fully tap into both cosmic spirits (which would require one's soul's range of flexibility to span end-to-end across the entire spectrum), and a portion of people are not capable of fully tapping into either cosmic spirit. Among the general population, the potential to tap into the power of the Cosmic Spirit of Wrong is much more common than the potential to tap into the power of the Cosmic Spirit of Right, but in pagan and magic-related circles such as this, the potential to tap into the power of the Cosmic Spirit of Right is more common than it is among the general population. The methods of soul polarization are similar to the buddhist 8-fold path in their subjects and organization, but completely different in their content.
I find this very anti-Semitic and very generalizing of Paganism and magical workings. Are you just going to ignore the racism, ableism, sexism, transphobia and other forms of bigotry that are present in many Pagan religions? All groups of people have "good" and "bad" which is a huge stretch because those terms and this entire thread are completely subjective to personal experience.
Please label that this is your personal religion or spirituality rather than stating it as fact. There are plenty enough people that regurgitate whatever they read on this site already.
You describe the whole Cosmic Right bit as differing greatly from Thelema (and other more common magical traditions).
And yet you describe it as: "There are also rituals of the cosmic spirits, which primarily serve to draw a cosmic spirit into the area and into the souls of the participants, and have said cosmic spirit drive one's actions in the ritual, which is a form of magic. "
Thelema is based around the concept of True Will - the idea that in finding one's true harmony within the cosmos, one will find the peace and rightness that might come of every action. While there is some ritualistic work and magic, the core of Thelema is to shed egoistic desires to fully embody this concept of True Will. Thus, if one is working in accordance with one's True Will, and in harmony with the Cosmos, then one is not working spells as you seem to view them - one is working towards enlightenment and harmony.
It is evident from this alone that your understanding is based only on a cursory understanding of various faiths, and personal experience. What you are describing sounds much like an adaptation Zoroastrianism coupled with your own views.
While it is noted in your profile that your personal meditative experiences indicate that you have encountered this deity, the Cosmic Spirit of Right, it is important that when you are speaking of such things to the general masses that you describe these as personal experiences. There are kids around here that rarely get the difference between that and some of the more universal truths that are shared between many practices.
That being said, you seem to miss those general truths as well.
Ah well. So it goes.
Re: the two polar paths By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 5 Oct 18, 2014
In your profile you say that I try to force my own beliefs on others.That is not only untrue, but it is exactly what you are doing with the above post! And you are stating your beliefs as though they are facts!
Re: the two polar paths By: ZeusUniverse
Post # 6 Oct 18, 2014
As far as I can see from you profile and this post, you are the one pushing your beliefs on people. By practically bashing the Mods of this site, you are surely not earning brownie points, by directly pointing them out, I am honestly surprised you haven't been gagged.
Lark for one, doesn't shove her beliefs on people, or "pray" on newbies, she in facts gives them information. What they do with this information it doesn't matter. She has helped many newbies on this site. Brysing may be a little tough around the edges, but it's because he has been around for quite some time and has his ways of giving information.
You know everyone has their own ways of discribing a subject.
I should point out the many disruptive deceptive behaviors in the above posts:
Eissy libellously stated:
"I find this very anti-Semitic"
-That particular deception is of a crude type, which relies upon either careless trust or the power of suggestion, being as my original post contains no racism whatsoever, so readers are expected to take Eissy's word for it without actually reading my post (careless trust), or even try to warp one's perception enough to see racism where there is none (power of suggestion). As for what particular thing Eissy is trying to warp into racism, my guess is that Eissy is referring to my one brief mention of the abrahamic religions, which happen to have been invented by semitic peoples. So then, according to Eissy, any opposition to a group of religions that, in their non-watered-down forms, advocate perverse dominant-aggressive tyranny and intimidating lies... is anti-semitic racism! Very Orwellian.
Eissy also lied by stating:
"I find this ... very generalizing of Paganism and magical workings."
-When in fact I had made no such generalizations. The only thing that I can think of that that could refer to is the fact that I had made one brief mention of a mere statistical difference, via the phrase 'is more common than', in the second-to-last sentence. So then, according to Eissy, stating a statistical difference is the same thing as making a general stereotype.
The dominance-seeking orthodox authoritarians Brysing and ZeusUniverse lied by saying that I am 'forcing/pushing my beliefs upon others'. In retrospect, I could have framed my post in a way that was more sensitive to other people's beliefs, rather than stating it as fact, but it is a willful gross exaggeration (at best) to say that that imperfect wording constitutes an intent to 'force my beliefs upon others'.
Readers should note that I have not done any true belief-pushing behaviors: I have not replied to any other person in order to refute and 'correct' their religious/spiritual beliefs; I have not replied to any newbie-type question posts and given the newbie the impression that my own beliefs are the 'one true belief' (like Lark has, by spreading a 'one true doctrine' about how magic works); I have not posted in order to argue why other people's religious/spiritual beliefs are wrong; I have not posted from a position of authority on this forum (though I am incapable of doing so anyway); and I have not even made the original post in the general subforum, but rather in the 'other paths' subforum, which is best suited for various people
posting a variety of unorthodox things. Furthermore, there are many people on this forum who state their beliefs as facts; I am far from unique in that regard, so Brysing and ZeusUniverse are clearly being very personal in who they accuse.
I believe that my statements in the original post are true because I trust that the deity that I have encountered speaks the truth, so my beliefs are based largely upon trust, though the deity has proven its trustworthiness to me; I do not claim that they are proven facts.
Note also that ZeusUniverse employs a brazen double standard: When he refers to the orthodox beliefs that are propagated
by Lark and Brysing, he refers to those personal beliefs as 'information', as if they were facts.
AwakeTooLong lied by stating:
"There are kids around here that rarely get the difference between that and some of the more universal truths that are shared between many practices.
That being said, you seem to miss those general truths as well." (emphasis mine)
-The lie there is in the word 'truths', because AwakeTooLong is in fact referring to beliefs , not truths, and such beliefs might even be fundamental falsehoods that are propagated in the name of truth, but I do not know what particular beliefs ATL is referring to because he did not state them.
AwakeTooLong also lied by stating:
"It is evident from this alone [Thelemic magic not being 'spells'] that your understanding is based only on a cursory understanding of various faiths, and personal experience."
When mentioning the contrast between the magic of the cosmic spirits and that of the existing popular traditions (witchcraft, Wicca, and Thelema), I was being as brief and concise as possible, rather than going into listed details. I had mentioned 'spells' mainly in reference to witchcraft and Wicca, but one could misinterpret that sentence to perceive that I was referring to Thelema as well. AwakeTooLong lied by vastly parlaying that imperfect wording into saying that I have only a cursory understanding of not only Thelema, but all faiths, when in fact I am quite familiar with Thelema, as well as Wicca and witchcraft for that matter.
To go into greater detail than I did in the original post, the differences between Thelemic ritual magic and cosmic spirit ritual magic are this: There are big differences in both the aims and the methods. Thelemic ritual magic serves the purpose of 'purifying' one's soul by ridding one's soul of higher purposes and inhibitions, and tapping into one's gut desires, which in Thelema is called 'true will'. In contrast, in the cosmic spirit paths, there is a process of soul polarization , which is akin to the soul-altering intent of Thelema only in the very broadest sense (the aims being completely different), and furthermore, said soul polarization is an everyday non-magical practice, rather than being a function that is served by the rituals. Rather, the rituals of the cosmic spirits are done primarily for their own sake, for the experience of the strong presence of the cosmic spirit, though there is also the secondary purpose of infusing oneself with more of the cosmic spirit. The methods of the rituals are even more highly contrasting: Thelemic rituals involve recitations, use of imagination, and simon-says-like sequences of movements. In contrast, cosmic spirit rituals involve none of such things, but instead involve creating the sort of mindset and environment that draws in a cosmic spirit, and that involves various aesthetic attributes in one's environment and actions. The rituals of the CSoR involve beautiful aesthetics, whereas the rituals of the CSoW involve vulgar aesthetics.
AwakeTooLong also lied by stating:
"What you are describing sounds much like an adaptation of Zoroastrianism coupled with your own views."
Zoroastrianism does have one basic general aspect in common with the teachings of the CSoR, that being a spirit duality between what is more-or-less right and wrong (this is called 'asha'/truth and 'druj'/lie in Zoroastrianism), and that aspect of Zoroastrianism was in fact inspired by the Cosmic Spirit of Right, as the deity has told me (in addition to inspiring various other things throughout history), but the similarities with Zoroastrianism end there, as one can see in the original post. In contrast to ATL's lie that this is "an adaptation ... coupled with my own 'views' ", I had clearly stated that the statements in the original post were taught to me by the Cosmic Spirit of Right, rather than being my own so-called 'views' (even 'views' itself is a deceptive term, serving to propagate the fundamental falsehood of subjectivism). Prior to encountering the Cosmic Spirit of Right, I did not believe much of anything, much less with any certainty, and what I believe now I believe mainly out of trust in the word of the Cosmic Spirit of Right, though various things that the CSoR has taught me I have confirmed as factual through reason, research, and/or experimentation.
Re: the two polar paths By: EyesOApollo
Post # 8 Oct 20, 2014
I personally think this is an extremely intriguing post! It is well written and, makes me think, as well as wonder a couple things.
I don't believe this is posing your belief's on other's, unless I'm reading something wrong here. This is a good post, and in the forums we are supposed to share our beliefs, or should I say views with other's, as well as ask questions.
I say good job on the post overall. This is a veiw, and i believe it's a very interesting veiw as well. Good job! Blessing's to you~
Re: the two polar paths By: EyesOApollo
Post # 9 Oct 20, 2014
But in a way I disagree with you! Your insulting moderators, which is so rude!! Pointing out facts, and stating to Bryson, and Awaketooling that there veiws are wrong is horrible and can litterally get you gagged!
Also stating Lark is being rude imposes her belief, sheesh I think most people would know better than to insult a mod, and your profile... which mods visit alot.
It seem's to me, that you have issues with the mods, and ranked people, although it's funny since you claim your not fluffy but here you are bashing people who are have ranks, and who I believe are intelligent an have a right for the rank. Telling people your view is one thing, but stating your's and only yours is right including bashing others, is wrong! By the way, I was on mobile site so I apologize for the comment above, I obviously did not realize the physical state of the matter.
I hope the young woman's words have not hurt you everyone, and mods I personally believe that all of your have your rep for a reason, and I hope you continue helping the way you do, and that is stating from someone who has had a couple of issues.
Sorry for the inconvenience, but i believe this post should be locked! It's kinda rude, and it can stop the comments. Blessed be!