Re: fire/water spell suggest. By: Lark Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 2 May 14, 2014
Actually, the idea that you have an Element isn't correct. It's something that Hollywood dreamed up in the movie, The Craft, and someone people latched onto it and it won't go away.
We are not one Element, we are composed of all of the Elements. What we truly want to do is learn to work with all of them in balance. It is true that you may find that one or two of the Elements are initially easier to work with. That isn't because they are "your Elements" but because you need to spend more time and effort learning to work with the others that are more difficult for you.
Nor is it true that "your Element" is the Element of the Sign of the Zodiac in which you were born. Anyone who does astrology can tell you that your birth sign is only a portion of what influences your life. Which Houses the other planets fall in also has great influence. Take myself for instance, I was born in Taurus, which is an Earth sign. But I also have planets that fall under Water, Air, and a lot in Fire. So again...I am not one Element only.
Which Elements you work with also depends in part on which forms of magic you practice. The classic Elements in Western magic are Earth, Air, Wind, and Fire. Some also add the Element of Spirit to that. In Chinese astrology and magic the Elements are Metal, Water, Wood, Fire and Earth. That's why it is important to understand what you want to work with and in which system you are working because it changes the perceptions regarding the Elements.
Ohh I get it now... So I can do pretty much any spell but it just takes more time and effort on the ones that seem difficult? Sounds like a challenge but I'm willing to try it Im still new at this but atleast I can learn :) thank you for clearing that up for me :)
If you are wanting to do elemental spells, you need to take some time to first learn about the elements and all the basics to magick first. And as it has been told to you, not everyone has a certain element and it doesn't always connect to horoscope ones. However, I have found that people tend to be more in tune with certain elements than others. Mine is water by horoscope, but I also do connect well too it on a level that I can't explain. Because of this I do practice sea witchery. But I only started this after practicing using all the elements.
Here are some books you might want to look into:
-Earth, Air, Fire & Water by Scott Cunningham
-Earth Power by Scott Cunningham
-Elemental Witch by Tammy Sullivan
-Elemental Magick by DJ Conway
If you can't get a hold of these books, becareful what you find online. There are lots of sites with misinformation. Always use your common sense when looking into witchcraft topics.
no one can completely control the elements, even some (like me) who use the elements in magic we don't command it we simply ask it for what we wish it to do. or at least how i rationalize something that no human can fully understand
There's a good post pinned in the General Info section of the forum on the elements.
The books mentioned above are sort of a waste of money, in my opinion, unless you're interested in Wicca, and the neo-pagan religious implications of the classical elements. Even if you are into that, they'll only restate basic information and list off correspondences you can easily find online.
One way you may want to consider the elements is that in some traditions they are considered properties than literal elements. In some regards they are considered parallel to the four humors (and possess those same properties: Heat, Cold, Moisture, Dryness).
Depending on tradition, these properties may coincide with the elevation of an element, which represents (depending on how exactly it is being used at a moment) relative function, level of energy, level of spiritual ascension of a particular act or entity. Each element is considered lighter than the previous, and this is 'higher.'
Earth is heavy, cool and dry. Above is water, cool and wet. Next is air, warm and moist. Fire, when surrounded by air, shoots upward, hot and dry.
Of course, different traditions have differing views, some seeing the elements in much more of a cyclical nature, being either a cycle of coming together or separating (creation or destruction), such as the Chinese elements.
They are all used symbolically much more than literally.