I'm in neeed of moral support as I'm about ready to give up. I am doing this alone and certainly with no one around physically to help me.
So... as usual, I had phenomenal beginner's luck and began astrally leaving my physical body on the first try. I used The Poppet's method. I was on a large bed with a cushion behind my back and my feet dangling awkwardly over the edge. I was facing north-east.
I was even interrupted multiple times and it was midday. But I still began doing it...
This was my experience, please note anything abnormal:
I did not try to train with the upraised arm due to shoulder injury, and the fact that I'm a partial insomniac. I did use the arm raised up once, just to see if I caught myself falling asleep, but all that accomplished was to make my arm "tilt" down an increment when I started to drift closer to unconsciousness. I'm just too aware of my arms moving, due to having demons/evil spirits play with thme while I slept in the past. (That does not happen anymore, thankfully, not for years).
Anyway, I was able to pretty easily reach the point of being totally relaxed, and just beyond the threshhold of sleep, without losing consciousness. I was keeping all mental activity Silent, I think that helped.
After attaining this state of total relaxation, I did indeed start feeling those powerful vibrations people experience. But, unlike how The Poppet describes, the vibrations were coming from my FEET, moving upwards, not my head, like it is supposed to.
Here began my first reoccurring problem. On the first time I'm describing, I conquered it with little issue. But, my heart began beating WILDLY right before the vibrations began. I was patient though, and it eventually calmed down, but my heart produced vibrations that skewed my ability to perceive the astral ones. (Or whatever the vibrations truly are).
After my heart calmed down, my aetheric hands began rising out of their flesh first. I could feel it distinctly and was excited! But what happened next was VERY disturbing and The Poppet nor anyone else mention this:
Right before I began to leave my body, a very vaporous, shadowy hand and arm began to descend toward me from my left. I turned my astral head to the left I believe, or my real one was already turned. But I saw it. Not long after, my astral hands began to rise up.
And as my hands got about a foot or two up from my body, they struck some kind of opalescent barrier! It was like some kind of square prism, about coffin sized. It lasted only an instant, but my hands struck it and shocked my aetheric body. It hurt, I was instantly returned to my physical body, and the sensation faded quickly. I woke up partially, but was so resolved to succeed that I state in a semi-conscious state, and began to astrally travel again a few minutes later.
I may be wrong, but it is possible at some point the long black arm tried to touch me at this point. I believe I heard an electric jolt, like it had touched the barrier, and then a furious and pained hissing sound... I know this incident happened, but I DON'T know when exactly in the line of events. I believe it was between projections. Which is why I mention it here.
But then I raised only one astral hand, for the second travel, and hit the barrier again. I was shocked in my fingers. At this point, I again confirmed the existence of this field. It appears that it is some kind of barrier that both protects me from dark forces, but also traps me inside... I am assuming this. At any rate the second attempt to get out of my body left me very frustrated. And I soon was interrupted by family, lost vibrational focus, and woke up.
It has been two weeks since then, exactly. I did it on Monday May 18... I am electromagnetically sensitive. Wi-fi is gone from my home, as is the smart meter, but 5G has been threatening to murder me... and I went out in public later in the week on Friday. From then on, my state of mind has been much weaker, I can't focus as well to maintain Silence.
And I just. Cannot. Vibrate. For. Anything.
I get situated, but it is as if my body now understands that I'm trying to leave, and is STOPPING me! Every time the vibration, for instance, starts, I instantly have a massive amount of mucus go down my throat and threaten to choke me... this happened on the first try, but I managed to somehow stay in-vibration and swallow or cough it to my mouth. Now, when I do this, I INSTANTLY snap wide-awake, and my heart starts pounding like I'm having a heart-attack.
Speaking of heart issues, now, whenever I really start relaxing, even though my mind and spirit are calm and at peace, my heart starts pounding viciously. And it drowns out the vibrations. I can feel it stopping them...
And now my annoying neighbors have brought their abused dogs and their tractors to their barn next door. And are making as much noise as they are legally allowed to make. . .
Just yesterday I almost succeeded in getting vibration back, anyway, but I still run into the same problems. I haven't gotten to the point of Vibration. Each time I try to connect to the vibrations, I have weird hot/white/cold pains that are very strange and get very intense, at random points on my body. I also start to have issues with breathing, as breathing through my mouth causes the mucus to react, and breathing through my nostrils prevents me from ever vibrating. (On the first successful attempt on May 18, I figured out I HAD to breathe through my mouth for it to work best... and thus start choking on phlegm or whatever eventually)
Things to note:
I had a home-made orgone device with me on the first try. It is a square one made from an old herb container, of glass, with the resin inside being composed of sugar, matcha green tea, some copper fragments and a clear quartz crystal. It has been phenomenal as a tool of relief from the 5G radiation. And I can even hear its frequency. It's like a really, really high-pitched, major-sounding ring. I usually have it with me for practice, and it seems that it is interfering now, or I suspect it is.
I have tried multiple pillows and positions. One issue is that my feet start hurting if I lie too long in one position, as does my buttocks. It's so irritating!
I have tried this while going to sleep at night, but I always fall instantly asleep. I have two orgone devices I sleep with. Without them, I suffer from radiation and there's little chance of me reaching the point of actual near-sleep, as I stay wide-awake and then suddenly fade.
Last night I tried a dark magic ritual (3 nights of hell), and I believe I didn't cleanse properly afterword, because I suffered strange headaches and intense radiation ringing/vibration that kept me painfully awake, until I finally gave up and brought the orgone close--which did the job and brought relief. But it also forced me suddenly into a very deep sleep...
Apologies for the long post. I like being comprehensive and that often doesn't help.
My biggest question:
Does the body sometimes realize and try to stop people from astrally traveling, and is there a way to force it to stop? Aside from concentrating willpower? I'm depressed, and my willpower is sketchy at best, and it is getting worse with each repeated failure.
Can I astrally travel in daytime? Because the radiation is weaker during the day... And I have nowhere to go that doesn't have windows. My family are sunshine freaks. I am as well, and I actually sleep better in the sunlight, and get more active under moonlight, but the mosquitoes and flies make outdoor sleep... trying at best.
And what the hell is this prism barrier?!? I am imprisoned by this thing!? Any clues? I for some reason don't quite buy that it is the orgone alone...
If your going to AP you will need to get over your fears. Your fears are the barrier and with that fear you will not have a successful oobe.
As for the arm technique it never really worked for me as a beginner I wouldnt suggest trying this fully conscious as it will be very hard. You can tell your supermind you intend on astral projection as your falling asleep when your on your back and your supermind will remember that, make sure your head is north because you said your head was northeast. After doing that a couple nights it will happen thats if it doesnt happen the first time. With that technique you dont have to stay awake you can drift off and the vibration will happen completely and not slowly because you wont be up until its strong enough to wake you.
And yes you can AP during daytime check out the WBTB technique.
The best advice I have is to never give up, nothing is ever easy.
The only disagreement I have here is that the first time I was not frightened at all. It's more like the atheric body is now frightened because of the shock. I've suffered from a satanic abuse from an early age, and I know I've been cursed before. I think the dark hand I saw was attempting to attack me, and the barrier is some kind of defencive mechanism against such forces. But probably not produced by me. . .
I don't know about the north issue. Others have said to lie east. And I sense vibrations from the feet up, which is really weird.
I agree with Wraith it could be your fears and your unaware of you subconscious mind fears you'll have to find what it is don't give up although I don't think it has to do with from when you were cursed before and after I recommend you cleanse yourself just to be on the safe side good luck
What I meant was that your subconscious might still be afraid of that so when you try to AP you go back to your body because of fear of that dark entity. Also very sorry to hear about that experience and I wont say that that isnt a possibility it could very well be that but you also have to take a look at the latter you know?
And Robert Monroe says the laying north works very well and if you read the emerald tablets by thoth it really backs that up.
Ah, I comprehend now, Wraithundead. But I've dealt with demons and dark spirits, and worse, attacking me since early childhood. When I saw the arm, I was not afraid, actually all the more eager to project and fight the enemy should they try something. The field seemed to hurt the spirit, as it shocked me. . .
After some deep self-observation, I'm now thinking the biggest hurdle is my unconsious, the body. It does not want me traveling. It is quite afraid and simply won't let me sleep. I now cannot go to sleep at all, regardless of if I convince it I won't travel. I now am fully aware even when my body feels asleep and at rest, but tethered to my waking brain, and therefore trapped there.
The fear is there, but it is stemming from having no assurance I won't be interrupted. There is nowhere I currently can go, either, save up on the roof of the house, and the blasted flies pursue me there. Perhaps I will try that once the weather clears and I can find an organic fly repellent.
It seems the fear is primarily stemming right now from the firm belief from experience that my good beginner's luck is all there will be. It's so... so frustrating. I literally began doing it the first time, but now it grows ever harder. The body is responding to the fear of almost succeeding and then failing... and now the tinnitus is worse than ever.
Where do I find the greater pentagram ritual? I am totally new to all this...
There are thousands of amazing banishing rituals. Though I was wondering, have you actually attempted communication with the spirit? Maybe give some offerings in exchange for information about what it is?
If you feel any negative influence on the spirit, maybe press it for more.
If you decide that this spirit may not have the best intentions, banish effectively. However, it could be that the spirit was actually another witch performing Astral Projection,or just something which protected you. There are many evil entities out there in the astral world, and it could be that they saved you from one.