Re: Is Bible a Magic Book ? By: Nekoshema / Novice
Post # 2 Jan 10, 2022
What does it mean?
Not entirely sure what you're referring to. The Bible/Torah are religious texts and they do contain magickal scripture to various degrees [it's been a while since I read the Bible, but I think it contains a number of incantations and remedies for certain ailments] there are also prayers you can use similar to chants. Jewish mysticism has Kabalah [not Jewish, so I know very little about it] so there is magick in the text. The Bible itself has been rewritten and mistranslated for centuries. The famous "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" was added to the King James version because the king was convinced witches were conspiring against him, so he wrote his version with a lot of anti-witch bias. [and that's to say nothing of books like Demonology or Malleus Maleficarum]
Do you believe in any religion as a wizard or witch?
Indeed. "Witch" is basically a title for someone who studies witchcraft. Witchcraft is just a craft. [like blacksmith, candle making or knitting] Many witches however do incorporate a spiritual aspect to their craft. Religiously speaking, there are religions like Wicca, Kemetic, Druid or Heathen. Wicca is a newer religion founded in the 1950's [yes, yes, Gardner said he was initiated into a coven, but since nobody else came forward, he's considered the founder] Most other religions witches practice are based on ancient religions and are a combination of historic and personal evidence on how best to worship the Gods and celebrate the holidays. Then you have people like me who pick and choose from a number of paths and call themselves eclectic [technically, I call myself a Saxon since 90% of my craft is from the same European areas most of my ancestors are from, but most don't know what I mean, so I go with "witch" or "eclectic" for simplicity] So, while there isn't 1 specific organized religion all witches follow, we have a lot of similar practices so we fall under the Pagan umbrella since "Pagan" means anything not Jewish, Christian or Islamic but some people are Jewish-Witches, Christian-Witches or Muslim-Witches, so it's all very confusing. Basically, build your own craft, add whatever spirituality speaks to you, and you'll probably find similar like-minded people in the craft.
For my personal coming of witch story, I began with Wicca for Life by Raymond Buckland, and while not all of it resonated, Wicca is the easiest to find resources on [at the time, this was 2006] and then through personal spiritual work, I branched out, started learning about other paths, worked with Dragons and spirits. Currently, I work with 2 [sometimes 4] deities, celebrate the wheel of the year, and practice kitchen witchcraft more than the spells you see on TikTok [though I do cast those on occasion, it's just not as often as when I was 20]
Re: Is Bible a Magic Book ? By: Lark Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 3 Jan 10, 2022
What do you mean by "bad words" in the Bible and the Torah?
Both the Bible and the Torah are religious books for specific religions, just as the Koran is a book for those who follow Islam. It isn't in itself a "magic book" but as Nekoshema points out, there are some portions of it which can be used in a magical practice. The important thing here is that magic associated with the Bible or the Torah is considered to come from God and is therefore righteous.
In terms of the word "witch" in the Bible, what it may mean depends heavily on which translation of the Bible you are reading. For instance, in the King James Version, it says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." This is because King James had a terrible fear of witches. In the original Aramaic language the text reads, "Thou shalt not allow a poisoner of wells to live." Quite a difference here, especially since the latter meaning requires no use of magic at all.
Re: Is Bible a Magic Book ? By: prsona / Knowledgeable
Post # 4 Jan 10, 2022
This is such a deep topic, one frought with so very many opinions and interpretations. One very long-standing tradition is the reason behind two creation stories in Genesis: One is the creation myth of older Jewish culture, passed down and adapted from cultural influences of many peoples and divided histories who eventually became one. The other is an allegory, a tale of initiation into the Mysteries.
The Old Testament is smack full of allegorical tale, the long precursor to what became the various forms of Kabbalah, the passed-down secret teachings which came in and out of favor over the centuries in so many various forms. But it is presented often along with histories, reasons for what became how it is. However, through translations, among so much else, it is easy to lose these important tales of wisdom. Some books even fell more into and out of favor, some even have been entirely rejected from their canonized status.
As for the New Testament, it becomes even more difficult. So many people want to treat the Gospels, for such an easy example, as the defacto truth of things which happened, when they are, themselves, highly allegorical, but also highly edited, amended, stylized, and made something they were not entirely from their beginning.
Take the Book of Luke: It is full of symbolism about fishing, being fishers of men, going out in boats, walking on water, fishing, fish, and more fishing. But it goes on to tell of the time to come which is a great pouring out. Some interpret this as a characterization of the "Current" age (when that Gospel was written) of the Age of Pisces, and the coming Age of Aquarius. But that is only one such view of things.
When Rome took over Christianity, many revered names were disappointed at what came of Canonized Scripture, often calling it something very different than what Christians believed before the Emperor used his influence to take over, and back state power behind a growing religion to maintain influence in government even to this day. Much was lost.
But there is still what is known as Esoteric Christianity in its many various forms, debates, and arguments.
If this is something you wish to pursue, I wish you the best of luck in your pursuits.