Okay, so I want to have a discussion here. What is your opinion? I have read and seen many magickal articles talking about invoking deities and spirits in their work, however some people invoke have been known to invoke fictional characters. I don't mean names of deities they made up for spiritual purposes, I mean things like SpongeBob and Deadpool. Things that were made specifically for entertainment with no intent for spirit work. I mean I get invocation is to make use of the specific energies spirits have to offer, but what energies do Marvin the Martian and Pink Panther have to offer exactly? In my opinion it is nonsense that is performed by inexperienced practitioners or young hipsters who don't want to follow a "mainstream deity" in there practice, or by the immature. This is just my opinion however, and who knows, maybe I just do not know enough to make the most informed opinion. Challenge me if you wish, if you disagree tell me why, teach me.
but in all reality, deities could be fictional to those who have no religion. They could be just as fictional as "SpongeBob" etc. As invoking deities helps us to allow our subconscious to enter a specific mind state for a certain activity to be performed, I guess why couldn't one invoke the persona of a panther who's silent and curious, or martian that's a bit evil, etc. I personally think its a bit silly.. As these are cartoon characters. I hate to hear people putting them in their craft.
Then again, I did just read an article about dissing others for not being "witchy" enough for their liking. To disapprove of someone else's path is unnessesary... But surely I'd like to see the newer practitioners learn something more meaningful...
Then again, who am I to say what should be meaningful to someone else.
I would agree as well with your assessment. Many of the people who do such things do not understand invocation or evocation. They think that imagination and invocation/evocation are the same. They are not, although a properly trained imagination is definitely a necessity. Much of what people do that claim to do invocation and evocation is merely just mental tomfoolery.
I do know they make fake deities in movies so people wont invoke the proper deities. I never heard about people trying to invoke sponge bob. But there are many theories as to the invoking, Some think they are actual astral beings, Others think you tap into a part of your consciousness. Personally if there having fun an not harming anyone then what the hell. Let them go at it. Everyone is on different paths an searching for different things.
Some people want to learn all there is about magick. Some people want to learn harry potter/movie magick. I guess it all depends on the person. But this is definetly the first I have heard about this. I havent even tried invoking, I have enough things that go bump in the night.
Re: Invocation of Fiction By: prsona Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 5 Mar 28, 2016
There are practices which do use fictional entities in rituals in lieu of 'actual' gods or spirits. Most of the people who do so in a serious manner use the trope rather than actually believing they are calling upon a fictional character.
More often than not, they are chaotes. And sometimes they may actually know what they are doing. That is, again, deliberately suspending disbelief to knowingly use fictional characters for things like calling the quarters. They don't believe Cthulhu is actually there. But if the character strongly represents certain things, then the idea can be useful.