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Re: The Bible and Witchcraft
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Christian Wiccans are those who still practice Christianity the old way, but add the beauty and natural path of Wicca. Most of us here have melded the two forms into a lovely, cohesive daily practice that enriches our lives and the lives of others. Many of us are seers, healers, and teachers of our ways.as they said this i believe this is legit kind of thinking

We realize that fanitical Christians have a bad reputation for putting down other religions, but you will not find that here. This coven respects each individuals personal choice. This Coven is a home and our membership is our family.

NO harmful or dark spells and/or rituals will be taught in this coven. Only positive Magick that follows the rule of three and the peaceful premis of the Holy Bible. Please remember, The Holy Bible does not specifically prohibit the white work we practice here. Those who say that it does are misled. The wording that intimates such was a DELIBERATE ''translation'' that occurred back in the 1600's.

We will share our learning's with you, as our goal is to teach as many as we can about being a Christian Wiccan. We strive to ensure that all coven members grow while in this Coven by offering educational classes, informational forum threads and weekly Q & A chat sessions.

this is mostly what they said and i believe them

whos to say that putting down all religions is a sin with in it's self
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Re: The Bible and Witchcraft
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Hello! I attended a Christian convent school (my mother sent me there) a while back.

I have lots of respect for Christianity in general, but not much for certain types of Christians. Religious intolerance of Christians lives on to this day. My old Bible teacher would speak against gays, witchcraft practitioners, and any other violators of the Bible.

Exodus 22:18 is an iffy verse, it can be interperated lots of ways. I suggest reading Leviticus 22:18 as it speaks more in depth about gods view on religion.

I believe Jesus did exist, I believe he had powers. I will not go as far to say, however, that Jesus was a witch as many pagans believe. I believe that there is some truth to the Bible, but I do not believe it to be the ultimate truth.

My mother thought I was possessed by demons because I practiced wicca at the time, and she tried to make me have an exorcism. People at my pentecostal church called me a devil worshipper.

The Christian religion, to some people is helpful. Tolerant Christians who use the religion to better themselves are delightful people. However, its all in the personal interperation of the Bible (and most Christians have never even read the Bible, they just listen to their preacher.) However hateful Christians full of spite are not Christian at all, because what happened to harming none? That is a belief that Christians and wiccans share alike.

It is important to remember there is a huge difference between the old and new tesitment, and with it the Christian God went from being a ruthless destroyer to a merciful father. But that in itself is a contradiction, because God claims to be unchanging.

Nevertheless, it is important (even if you're not wiccan) to not let hate corrupt your heart. And unless a Christian personally insults you or persecutes you due to your religious beliefs, you have no reason to speak out against them. That is what "coexist" means, and if we did not coexist, the world would erupted into chaos.

Message me if you have any questions.
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Re: The Bible and Witchcraft
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I am an Eclectic Wiccan who happens to believe in Jesus. A key thing to remember is that the Bible has been written by humans. It's bound to be flawed, so it's not really if you should choose to believe parts of the Bible, but how you should choose them. I tend to use the Wiccan Rede for this:An ye harm none so what ye will. Other than that I believe all Deities are One, so I can call upon any name of the Deity I choose and don't have to worry..... I can't say it's an easy path to walk but I love it. To me God is in nature, He and She is in everything..... So I suppose I would be termed as a 'Jesus Wiccan' rather than a 'Christian Wiccan' if I had the choice. I am Wiccan, I just choose a different name for the Divine than most but I recgonize all names and faces as God/dess. I hope this helps, I do understand it's a bit confusing for many.
Blessed Be.
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Re: The Bible and Witchcraft
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i feel that being a gypsy wiccan is harder i think i should be a christian wiccan just to heal people and protect people from harm if i were a mastery i'd say dueling against spirits would be the same as cleansing an area of demons i'm more inclined to doing that
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Re: The Bible and Witchcraft
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I’m seeing that some of the conflict discussion is because people are confusing witchcraft as a religion.
All Wiccans are witches, but not all witches are Wiccans.
Witchcraft is a practice that does not favor a religion, and is not a religion itself.
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Re: The Bible and Witchcraft
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This discussion happened three years ago.

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Re: The Bible and Witchcraft
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I'd like to offer an opinion about this if I may. I think one of the problems with mixing witchcraft with the Bible is that it represents a fundamental disconnect in world views. I think that witchcraft is essentially a will to power. One attempts to shift the outcome of events to suit ones will by use of magick. This is in stark contrast to the Biblical depiction of spirituality. That is to surrender to a Divine will. It is a belief that the Divine is the center of all things and is best able to determine what the outcome should be.
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Re: The Bible and Witchcraft
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Post # 24
Actually, Splintrd, that is probably at least partly correct.

Until Israel became a church-state, and the religion was enforced as law, the people still widely used idols in their homes, and in street markets, as well as petitioning other gods and spirits for various purposes. Many still revered God as the most high, while also incorporating many others.

It was about the time that the Book of Ezekiel was written that Israel was solidified as a government, and the scriptures were collected into a comprehensive volume, that is, canonized as the Catholic church may call it.

Leading to that point, it is very interesting to watch the paradigm shift in belief, even though there is an attempt to remove it without spoiling what is meant to be both history and allegory: Earlier on, it seems that there are teachings that the God of Israel is the God of that people. Later, it is taught that God is greatest among all the gods, and thus the others should be placed below, changing to the others should not be worshiped. This again develops into a belief that God is the only, and the others are false.

I could go on in length, but basically such religious mandates are to ensure that the people who follow the God of Israel seek only Him, and no other spiritual source. To put it more directly, everything else is considered idolatry.
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Re: The Bible and Witchcraft
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Bible, I think is a using religion to control people. Pagan gods are real. And everybody can see them for example through meditation on the name. But, take it a time, so patience is necessery.
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Re: The Bible and Witchcraft
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Post # 26
Yes: The Bible has been used by many governments to control people, from lightly to severely. But that neither invalidates its wisdom, nor makes the God represented within false. Any system can be usurped for the sake of gaining power over others.

As far as what gods are and are not real, it is a matter of belief, rather than provable fact. A person may have a spiritual experience with one god, or a pantheon, and not others. That does not mean the others do not exist. Also, there is no way to test for gods' existence with repeatable results. Again, this means that gods are a matter of belief.

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