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By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 31
Only a racist person ties the colors white and black to people. If people are the first thing you think of when you hear the words white or black then I would suggest some sensitivity training.

If you look at the whitest white it is a hue that reflects 100% light. If you look at the blackest black it absorbs 100% of light. There for white has no light and black has all light.

Humm interesting to say the least.

Now for positive and negative I don't think they are good words to use to describe magic either since positive has the meaning to add and negative has the meaning to take away. I believe healing magic can be under the negative because it takes something away and a curse can be positive if you add something to a person's life.

Again all words used to describe magic are left up to the person interpenetrating it. One man's blessing is another man's curse. It really depends on how you see things.

Magic is as magic does. Dead is only a bad thing if you see it that way and life is only good if you feel it is worth living.
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Post # 32
all of this is making my head hurt >
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Post # 33
I totally agree KTS!
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Post # 34
Kts, I am racist.. -_-
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I dont agree with you Kts that just because the first thing you think of is people when you hear the words Black and white ,that you need some sort of sensitivity training.Maybe thats the case where you are,but In the Southern U.S. where I live,thats not the case.However its said..Black and White..White and Black ..people have to be the first thing that you think of ,so you can understand that there is no difference ,,that both are people...both are colors. both describe Magick to some.Neither is greater..they both just are.I personally believe that Magick is Magick,that its the intent of the user that defines it,but I have no problem with people using colors to describe it,,Black,White,Green,Grey..In widespread use it makes it a little easier to grasp what type your talking about.Then again these are just my thoughts on the subject...
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Post # 36
People just like to categorize and associate.. is easier.
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Post # 37
Oh, I finally get the light thingy, kts.
I'm sensitive to "black" and "white" terms cause I'm annoyed at racism.. possibly caused by the Catholic Church of "dark-skinned people" must be Satan followers (or something like that) aimed at the Egyptian Empire and culture.

But Kts, white and black are defined by "good" and "evil" intention, I tie it because of the parallels from racism; Segregation against Black people from White people. Black people are supposedly filthy.. Or at least the white people thought so. I reckon black people are awesome and white people are stupid in terms of their attitudes. *_*
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Re: attention site moderators
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 38
Sounds like you are a racist. But then again stereotypes have there bases in everything. I still think it is funny when I hear a Native American referred as a "no beard". It is funny because of the many different takes on it, but the truth of it is the men do not have facial hair.


My name is really Knows their Sh!t. :)
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Post # 39
With all due respect, kts, I find it slightly amusing that you are pointing the finger and calling people racist while making an assumption about a race yourself.

Yes, many Native American tribes are fairly hairless when it comes to body hair....but not all of them. Infact there are tribes where the men are more than capable of growing facial hair. I can supply a picture of a Noatak Eskimo right now with a full mustache and beard. He is no less Indian than those who do not have facial hair.

Also, to say Native American men do not have facial hair would be implying that those who do cannot be Native American. You are not considering those who are not full blood. I think it would be kind of unfair to say " no, you have facial hair, therefor you do not fit into the stereotype and cannot be a true Indian". Take for example my man. He has facial hair. He is not 100% Native American, but simply because he can grow it does not make his cultural backround any less significant.

You are right, stereotypes do have some truth to them. Based mostly on one's own experience with the culture itself, and those who live up to the stereotype itself. I have no issue admitting that I despise the "worst of" a races stereotype. That goes for ANY race.

But to sit and call someone a racist, while making a fairly narrow minded assumption about a race yourself, does not work well.

Perhaps we can call it a wash and chalk it up to each persons interactions with other cultures, instead of jumping to the conclusion of someone being a racist.
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Post # 40
I am glad that it amuses you Healer that was the point of my previous post.

I was speaking in terms of stereotypes and not stating that anyone with indian heritage is not an indian or however you refer to them. I have found that every human is racist in that everyone knows stereotypes and many rely on them. Is is sad that they exist but it is the reality.

I know that one day when the aliens land there will be no more distinction between humans. It will turn from different human races to the race of man and the race of aliens what ever they will be. :)
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