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Re: To break a natural shield
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But i think is just someone arpund him talking bad about me and just adding a lot of negativity when it comes to me i think is his mum, as ia the only perspn he will really get influence by.
I dont really know how to do my pwn spell i dont think i am that good but for sure i will put a curse to his mum, she lied to me and i cant believe she cpuld do something like that but i think is because he doesnt want to have kids and she wants a grandson already
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Re: To break a natural shield
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The first red flag on this is that you were told there was a problem that money can solve. That person is absolutely scamming you. This is no different than someone saying 'I have sensed a curse on you. Give me money'. At the vary least, even if the person is being honest and charging this openly as just his/her fee for the service, this is a gouging.

The symbols and tools used in magic are largely inexpensive. Unless they are intending to buy a moldovite singing bowl and a platinum-inlaid gold wand, that much money is laughably high.

If the person is an actively practicing then they will already have the main 'equipment' already. One does not throw out their athame after one use. At most, the things that would be consumed would be water, salt, a candle or two, incense, and maybe at the high end a mirror or poppet.

All of that aside, it may be worth considering the shield is one the person made himself for protection. By following the chain of events as you describe; You had a relationship, but at some point he ended it. Since it has ended you have been trying to get him back by having someone work magic on him at your behest. There was not a shield before, but now there is. It appeared after your attempts. It is possible it is in reaction to your actions.

It may be worthwhile for you to give him some space, and before leaping into magical intervention shift that focus to first understanding the situation. One question to mull over as food for thought; Was there genuinely no reason, as in when directly asked he said precisely nothing? Or did he have a reasoning, but it was one you do not recognize as valid?

If it were me, and it was the former, then I would consider there is something personal to him he needs to sort out, and needs some time. If it was the latter, then I would want to do some self-examination and take some time going over my past actions while placing myself into his perspective.

It may not make a favorable outcome appear, after all sometimes life that brings people together also brings them apart. But it may lead to insight that will let you move forward. Sometimes all we can do is understand things were not right, and/or not meant to be. Remember the things you learned and grew from in a measure of thankfulness, and see what our next encounters in life will bring.
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Re: To break a natural shield
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We were together for 8 years he whent to see his mum for a week amd he kept sendinge messages and pictures and vpice notes saying he loved me and all of a sudden he called me one day amd said this is not working and left me. Everytime i asked him what was the reason he tells me a different thing one day we dont want the same things in the future another day he wants to be alone to think what to do in the future another time that i didnt care about him another time he doesnt care about me. I have gave hom space jt has been like 2 months i only made one person todo a spell because i know the ones i did, did not work as i was desperate i have been living my life but if he would have been honest i wpuld let him be but i know something is going on i can feel it, thats why i want to really want some help to bring him back i will do the hard work but i need to know the truth because i know this ia not what he really wanted
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Re: To break a natural shield
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Post # 10
That does shed some light. But sometimes the proverbial ball is just not in your court. And the harder you try to force something to happen the more difficult it becomes.

Sometimes the strongest magic lies in the simplest, quietest things. Perhaps a few loving words, and a whole heap of patience. Letting him know that you love him, and that though you would like him to open up and talk if he isn't ready to, then you will be there and waiting until he is. Specifically telling him that you trust him enough to place the ball in his court may go a long ways.

As a personal example, I was never a fan of the idea of marriage. Youthful scars of a split family probably play a significant part, but I also viewed the process as what amounted to either a claim of ownership, or a pointless piece of paper to tell the government something you already knew. An unnecessary exercise for people who already intended to spend their lives together. I lost a few relationships over this, as the people I often came to know saw that piece of paper as a more important goal than the person it came with. The more they pushed for it, the more I pulled away. Even in the time or two I felt like I could genuinely see myself growing old with that person. They would push, I would recoil, and things would end.

In my latest relationship, the same discussion came up. Marriage was asked about, I rejected the idea even though I favor the relationship it defines. It led to long discussion, and ended with her telling me that either way she wasn't going to go anywhere. Marriage was just a title. One she wanted, but she wanted it to be with me, not to get that piece of paper. She would wait, and trusted that not wanting Marriage did not mean I did not want her.

She had to wait five years, but we are married now. Because she gave trust and showed me who she wanted, over what she wanted.

Show your significant other that same trust. Give him some legitimate space, but let him know you will be waiting on the other end. I am willing to bet that will go a long ways.

Beyond that, magically speaking perhaps a change in perspective and goals would help. Try researching spells that inspire confidence, insight, and protection. In your mind and magic surround him with love and empowerment to help him re-find himself.

I'll do some hunting and see if I can find some examples. Unless, of course, the rest of the floor has some suggestions?
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Re: To break a natural shield
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Thank you very much, i did give him all the time he wants he knows i love him and ge knows i will be waiting, but something happened and now he is even mean sometimes and he said he will never come back with me. I havent done any spells lately because i am looking to gain more energy and do it in a better state of mind and doing the correct one but i cant find what i am looking for. Some people suggested to get someone more powerfull to do an obssesion spell with mind influence but i dont know if that will work and others say to try the spells ones he is sleeping has his guard will be down then. I am confused but i researched and everything and i know we are meant for each other. I thought his mum loved me but she doesnt and realising that as well is so hard because i always looked up for her like she was my own mum. And now i just want to do an hex on her to feel what i felt because of her to loose him or to feel bad about it and tell him the truth
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Re: To break a natural shield
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After some pondering, my first inkling is that a honey jar might be something that would help. The idea is to 'sweeten' your connection with another person, making opportunities for letting go of negativity and stimulating positive movement.

The process is pretty simple, and there are a few examples of honey-jars sprinkled through the site so finding info shouldn't be too tough.

Start with a jar, and place a photo of the person you want to influence. You can add a photo of yourself as well but it isn't necessary. Then you place a few items into the jar that represent positivity in your relationship. Flower petals, a keepsake from a time both of you were happy together, maybe a piece of amethyst (healing) or similar crystal representing clear thought (quartz) empowerment (blue kyanite) Or release of negativity (onyx, jet, obsidian, etc). Cleansing herbs like sage or cedar chips help too. Then adding some raw sugar or a good volume of actual honey. Hence the name.

Another practice would be to use a period of meditation to recognize and visualize your connection to this person as a thread of energy, and to focus on ideas of healing, betterment, peace, and clarity. In effect this could act as a remote healing and empowerment as you visualize these intents following that connection to him. I am not sure if you are familiar with the ideas behind energy-working but if you already have some practice with it, this might be worth trying.
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Re: To break a natural shield
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Tbank you very much i will try
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Re: To break a natural shield
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If he has made up his mind that he is not interested in a relationship then he has made up his mind. There's no reason to continue pursuing this person and attempting to override his will.

I've seen such things backfire big-time, resulting into a feedback loop onto the person's own obsession for their desired, while their target was happily enjoying the romantic company of someone else.

Sometimes it's worth letting go and moving on yourself. If it's meant to be, so to speak, the other person will come back around. Don't allow yourself to wallow in obsession.

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Re: To break a natural shield
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Agreed. If magics/healing to empower, protect, and remove outside influences are not bringing out change then it will be time to seriously consider it may be because there is not any outside influence to remove.
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Re: To break a natural shield
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That natural shield you're talking about is protection from his guardians and spirit guides. You can't break it. Unless that person does something really bad and the guides leave the person alone, you can't harm the person.

Keep in mind harming someone through magical means involves consequences and karmic reactions. It's best if you leave the person alone.
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