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Post # 5
I just got a rune set and i find it just as confusing. I have to ask what kind of rug or cloth do you use?
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Re: Runes?
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 6
"The cloth upon which the lots are cast should be made of white material. Not only does Tacitus indicate this in his report, but this practice is borne out by the symbolism of white as a sign of the undifferentiated sum of magical light. It is upon this white field that the runes play out their interweavings of force. The cloth itself should be made of linen or some other natural material, and should be between three and four feet square." At the Well of Wyrd - Edred Thorsson.

Thorsson also states that "For practical reasons, most runecasting will probably be carried out indoors, in your living quarters. For ritual effectiveness other runework should be done in the same area. One advantage to runecasting is that the vitki can carry the basic 'holy stead' around in the form of the white cloth. However, for especially important castings other holy steads might also be considered. Most beneficial are sites under holy trees-oaks, breeches, yews, ashes-or near (south of if possible) a natural spring or an artificial well. Hilltops are also good places to do runework. Outdoors, the runecaster can follow the rede of the ancient tradition more effectively and look into the sky when picking the staves for the reading. The force can be especially powerful at night if you look directly to the Northern Star-into the eye of Odhinn-while choosing the lots."
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Re: Runes?
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 7
There is absolutely no evidence that points to runes being used as divination in ancient Norse practise. That is a MODERN idea. There is plenty however that explains the use of the runes in magick. Later it was used as a writing system.

The only thing written about divination among magic practioners of the time was "casting lots" but never were the "lots" mentioned as runes despite the exact same poems/sagas mention how runes were used for magic. Anyone that writes about the use of divination with the runes (as if it is an old form of divination) is just making money off the general public's ignorance. You can divine with runes, but do know, there is no "right" way because it is a modern idea.
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Re: Runes?
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Post # 8
So what form of divination did they generally use then?
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Re: Runes?
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 9
There is very little known about the ancient Norse ways of divination. Simply put, we don't know. The only mention of divination is vaguely described as "casting of lots". So they threw (casted) small objects (wood? stone? bone?) and interpreted it.

On a non-Norse note: The use of bones or stones lightly thrown and then read is one of the oldest forms of divination and seen all over the world. So if you want to practice a form of divination that is truly "ancient", collect a bunch of rocks and give each one a meaning.

One way I've heard of that is the simplest is three stones. One means "yes", one means "no" and one is the indicator. The answer stone the indicator stone is closest to (and how close it lands) tells you your answer and the closer it is demonstrates how certain the answer is. That's just one very simplistic example as to how you can "cast lots" to divinate. ;-)

Of course, the more complex your system, the more complex and accurate your answers will be.
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Re: Runes?
By: / Beginner
Post # 10
That is actually pretty cool. I should try that some time. Where do you come by all of this information, rav3n? XD
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Post # 11
Wow this is really interesting. I am all up for learning more. I like my tarot cards, but somehow using something from the earth feel better.
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Re: Runes?
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 12
I don't just read literature on magic but also focus on academic studies on the religious beliefs and practices of the cultures. I also enjoy discussing and sharing information about such subjects with others that are also experienced. That gives me more resources and directions to aim my studies at.

I've been studying the runes for about 13-14 years now. After reading many books from the "occult" section, I began digging into the origins of that literature. Once you see the bare bones of what authors base their books on, you see how much of it is personal opinion or copy and paste from other's opinions (and it's at least 90% opinion).

Don't get me wrong, I am extremely enthusiastic about rune magick and I have even divined with the runes on occasion, each time with great accuracy.

But I feel it is important for people to know that the mystery of the runes is still there, and anyone has the opportunity to dedicate themselves to discovering it. Most rune authors try to come across like their ideas are fact, when they aren't.

Most of what is 100% know comes from both Eddas, the sagas, and the three rune poems (the Old English, Icelandic, and Norwegian).
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Re: Runes?
By: / Beginner
Post # 13
So what is your opinion on the runes? What are their best uses in your opinion? (I saw that one very long post of yours on it, it was well written; as you probably know) What have you used them for mainly in the past?
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Re: Runes?
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 14
Personally I believe that what runes are best used for is up to the individual as some may work with them better one way than another. I mainly use runes for Galdr and runecasting.
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