levitation theory

Darksith is a child, with a child's imagination. Let him believe whatever he wishes to believe. He is merely trying to draw attention to himself. In time, he will learn.

You guys speak as if our bodies aren't born resisting gravity.. its not like heavier things fall faster.. its the resistance that matters.

We resist gravity because we exert an equal and opposite force to the resistance that we encounter based upon our mass, etc.

As suggested elsewhere, to defy gravity in any way we must either provide a force such that it would counter gravity's impact enough to lift us from the ground and then stabilize for levitation, or otherwise dilute the force that gravity exerts upon the object in question.

You'll forgive me, but the use of muscle tissue and a rigid bone structure to brace one's self against the pull of gravity (ie: stand upright) does not remotely compare to claiming that one is able to rise from the ground through an effort of will or magic. That is more or less like saying because a steel girder can support a skyscraper, so should wishes.

The human body's resistance to gravity is purely structural. Were you to go to say... Jupiter, and somehow manage to exist within that environment, the increased gravitational forces would crush you.

Point well taken, lol. My thing there was mainly about resistance.. kinetic energy,, such as syntripical force (forgive my spelling) could play a part in the reducing of the total force/energy required to levitate..

Centrifugal force requires that something be revolving around another at high rotation. This certainly pulls outwards against gravity but would require that object to be spinning around the object exerting the gravity.

On a lesser scale, it would be like swinging a yo-yo at the end of its string. As you spin it in a circle it tries to pull away from your hand.

On a larger scale, such as with the earth, an equal example would be the Moon, or a satellite's orbit around the earth.

There are various forces that exert themselves against gravity, certainly, but achieving them through energy and will...? To be frank, I've yet to see anybody actually demonstrate anything through energy that impacted a physical object that could not be explained through physics that were overlooked.

I'd also like to point out that the 'energy' we use in magick is not kinetic, electrical, or any other kind of energy observed in scientific studies. It can't be used to make an object denser (that I'm aware of) unless you were to cast some sort of spell that would cause it to gain mass through a chemical reaction. In which case, you would be casting a spell for this reaction to be able to occur somehow. Like a "Let this object wander it's way into a chemical laboratory where the scientist will choose to make it denser" spell. It just happens to have the same word of designation as those types of energy.

im not a kid... im just a person who wants to share his ideas without being called a fluffy. and really i dont care if i get called that.

cassiel there is a flaw in your statement. there is actually a large branch of science which deals with the power of thought, which we use in magick to affect the world around us, called noetic science. and if you are not open to ideas(like in many of your posts from this week) then dont bother posting unless you would like to explain how, with incomplete knowledge, that you are correct and would also like to disprove the science of noetics, and through that, magick.
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From what I have seen of Noetic science, since you pointed it out to me, it does not specifically translate the energy of thought into kinetic energy or any such thing.

The study of psychic energies resulting in kinetic energy actually appears to be a rather small portion of the whole within Noetic studies, with a great deal of examination being given to meditation, the impact of various holistic medicines (energy healing, compassionate intent), ESP, lucid dreaming, etc... All subjects you would find most of us much more agreeable to.

Nothing has been proven within any field studying kinetic energy and unless you can present a specific study where they have proven the kinetic potential of thought your argument has no basis. You might as well say "You're wrong because I can't prove that I am." It would be the same thing.

What Cassiel was saying is that psychic/magical energy is not kinetic energy, throughout most practice. This is quite simply true. The energy described within magic/psionics/etc. is not the same at all as kinetic energy, thermal energy, etc. It does not have the same qualities. It does not have the same impact on the environment.

Do refrain from calling someone ignorant just because you don't want them to be right. And before you respond to that statement, realize I mean it in a friendly way. Take a moment, calm down, and realize how much of your end of the debate is influenced by what you wish to see happen vs. what is actually understood to be true.

awake i never said he was ignorant and for the post about not being able to make psi more dense you are incorrect according to all 20 reliable magick/psi sites that i have studied and in each, including this one, making it more dense is in the steps to make a psiball.
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