Theories

Interesting, but I don't think that we are here because of another's thoughts. When we were little and had our imagenary universes, we didn't think about that universe all the time, so some moments it existed and other moments it didn't, because we didn't think about it.

Therefore, if we were the thoughts of another, we wouldn't exist all the time. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

I think that we are the ones who create other imagenary worlds. I think that we are all energy inside a physical body and other kinds of energy control other forms of matter. It has been scientificaly proven that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can only be transfered. Therefore, we can't actually die, when our physical body dies, our energy is simply transfered to new matter, like reincarnation.

Because we are energy, we are able to make things happen which can't happen in the physical world. It is here where magick comes in, witches have learned to use their energy for purposes outside of the physical world.

The physical world is nothing. It is only here because it is controlled by energy. For example, the waves are there because it is controlled by energy, if it wasn't for the energy, the waves wouldn't have existed.

This is what I think.

"Interesting, but I don't think that we are here because of another's thoughts. When we were little and had our imagenary universes, we didn't think about that universe all the time, so some moments it existed and other moments it didn't, because we didn't think about it.

Therefore, if we were the thoughts of another, we wouldn't exist all the time. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say."

Our imaginary worlds did continue to exsist. Simply because we don't pay attention to something doesn't mean it ceases to exsist. It simply isn't getting attention. I don't think about my astral world 24/7, yet each time I go back...it's still there.
If, for the sake of arguement, we are simply a thought of someone else...then our consciousness wouldn't know when the world is taking a time out. It would be a flicker to us or a millenia to those who created it. ;)

I agree with that.

Like in movies, the scenes happen right after eachother, even though they are filmed days, or weeks apart.

If time froze, we would have no idea that it happenes, unless of course we caused it. I've often thought of that while in school. Like, for example, when taking a test, I'll put the answer as c (or whatever t is), and I thought that what if somebody could somehow just change it to b, then I thought that if they did, then I would never know because then it would have just seemed, to me and everyone but the person who did it, that it had always been b.

I'm not saying that we are just an imaginary universe thought up by some little kid, just that it would be possible, though not very probable. Who knows , though, we could be.

This is an interesting topic. I will try to be brief.

I believe that we are thought forms of "the powers at be". whatever it "is", thought of us in one way or another and here we are. Now whether it was all by design or just a series of coincidences is another thought branch. I see the tree of life a good representation of the ideas with in this thread.

Thats also true. I have not thought of it that way.

Say for example we are the thoughts of another, would it be only one persons thoughts? Because if I'm the thought of one person and you're the thought of another, how is it then possible that we can interact, because not everyone would imagine the same world and people.

i dont really beleive the idea that each one of us is created by a seperate conciousness because if u think of it as a storyboard wouldnt each seperate conciousness want each one of us to be the "main character"? and that is contradictory

First, let me say that I like your theories, and had they not have been forgotten so many years ago, who knows what other kind of ideas they could have evolved into. I admire visionaries my friend, and at one time you were indeed one. Let me ask this first, and dont answer it here in the forums bc it is for u to think on ur own. What caused the visions and dreams inside of you to die so easily? Remember this, Those Who are Different Change the World, Those Who are the Same Keep it That Way (basically, being a visionary is good).

Now, onto ur theories. It does have some matrixish rings to it, but at the same time it lacks the whole machine part of it, at least in a literal sense. Granted, the idea of machines is not absent within ur theories.

"To me, it would be no different that servitors. You take energy, create a being, give it a purpose ( and a way to exsist via constant energy flow ) and it does it ( in the simple concept of it)."

These few sentences alone indirectly mention machines because what are machines meant to do? They serve. It takes energy and labor to build them. We do give them purpose and energy, and it does do as we ask. Which brings me to my next point. Let me use a clock as an example of a machine. It serves, it takes energy, it is created, and it does what it is supposed too, it is by definition a machine. But what do we know about clocks? We know that though their energy may not run down, they still need to be fixed and reset from time to time. So who is to say that one or several various "godforms" as you call them do not reset the clock they built so to speak every now and then?

As for energy in general, it does indeed have a set of rules. It is impossible for us to understand its set of rules just bc the rules of energy are nothing but ironies, paradox's, and chaos for the most part. However, there is one thing that energy does abide by (in my personal opinion), and that is Balance. Balance is a theory, law, and illusion all in one (hard to explain in a brief manner, just one of the many ironies of energy and of our Universe).

When it comes to what are the ideas of entitities/gods or whatever else u wish to call them, they do have a consciousness of their own, but it is one that we will never b able to understand. The reason behind that is we are inherently flawed with imperfection while the entities themselves are inherently perfect in every way. Which leads to this next question, Why would the Perfect, create something so Imperfect?.?

It makes little sense at first thought. However, if you were an insane dictator on a mission to rid the world of everything that is blue, what would u do once ur mission was finally complete? Existence would simply have no meaning left for a dictator of that sort. Just bc an entity is an ultimate perfect machine does not mean that it too doesnt have the need to have meaning. Like I said once before, one thing that is certain of energy and of the Universe, is Balance.

So what would the ultimate form of Balance be for an entity? The ultimate Balance and equalizer would b to send the opposing energies that they have in their perfections outwards, and it is from this release of Dark and Light (notice I do not say good and evil) that the Universe, and what I call the Microverse came from(The Universe is ever expanding and growing, Microverse is everything on the atomic level and lower and how Microverse is the idea that an atom when split for example cannot be the same atom it was, its former state and new state cannot co-exist). However, fully explaining Universe vs. Microverse is a topic for another time. But the point being that this entity is bound by a sense of balance so that it may keep a sense of purpose of its own. This “being” knows that by itself, it has no meaning. Also, if you haven’t figured out my view on the vastness of this entities consciousness, I hold a view that these entities do not simply exist because we gave them a consciousness through believing in them, but because they truly did exist before anything else. The world is too much of an exact balance of chaos and serenity for it to be a coincidence, so something must be governing us! It should also be mentioned that from this entity we received the ideas of Light and Dark, which are both perfections on their own. We each hold a piece of this entity, which I like to think of as nothing more than pure energy, and the pieces we hold are indeed pieces of perfection. However, as humans, we are flawed, and this once again comes back to the idea of balance. If we were not flawed then we could not have been created because we would simply be the pure energy that is the entity or entities that created us.

As to the swirling of energies, seeing that actually goes to prove my previous points before. The energies swirling about prove the need for balance within our existence because every energy emitted is different in some way. Everything that is living puts off an energy, as do things that are not living, however, their energy typically has a more manmade synthetic feeling to it. What this seems to be is a fairly strong skill that you have to see energy of various kinds.

Finally, time to attack the idea that was all matrix like. Consider this, based upon the things that you have previously read in this posting about balance and its nature is it not highly possible that the reality that we know really is not “reality”. What I think the concept of reality boils down to is that we do not, cannot, and never will have any idea of what it really is. It all comes back to the paradox that lies within everything. I honestly believe that perceptions of reality never become full nor do they run out, they instead repeat themselves infinitely being recycled back into another form of the same reality (a different dimension if you will). But take these ideas and run with them and expanded upon them, make each idea that you think of your own! L8er!

Pariah

Pariah, sorry, but I didn't read your post. It's way to long and I don't have time.

Mikada, each of us is the main character in our own story(life).

LOL rag I skimmed it ;)

I guess that is because in the matrix of life I can be disinterested in to many details :)

Personally I believe that "glamor" can be like the residual self image from the matrix. I believe it is possible to have people see the image you project.

Personally, I like to believe that each book has its own dimension in which the story plays itself out.