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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 5
Well said Tethaia.
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Post # 6
Energy is known to be unlimited. but the man body can only channel so much. Thus, a greater being, not trapped within a physical body can channel more energy.
something that has no conscious), so out of curiosity or being forced to
what this means is a general reference to the two types of beings one can find but the second bit did not apply to both types.
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
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Post # 7
Unlimited? We have no limits when it comes to using energy. Food gives us its energy so that we may have energy to live, and function in daily life. Water gives us its nutrients and energy so that we may stay hydrated to be functional. We may use the elements' energy to meditate and cast out our workings. But energy itself is not quite "unlimited." It cannot be created. Only transferred, as I last stated.

And this "non-conscious" thing your talking about, are you speaking of things that have patterns, but just exist, with out "free will?" It can't be "curious" if it has no "free will."

And because these deities and astral beings have no physical form, it doesn't allow them to have more access to channel energy as AwakeTooLong mentioned earlier. Honestly (and this is my personal opinion) we humans are in a body that can feel physically, project physical sensations, and have access to physical energy. Where as the deities, out of a physical form, cannot. And still, as humans, we also have to luxury of experiences emotional and spiritual energies as well. We are able to experience others energies, the world's energy, as well as the astral. We are able to transfer it, physically, spiritually, and emotionally.

Sure the astral can be what they are, and possibly more, we will never know for sure. But energy, regardless, will always be the same amount, only transferred.

So what are the two types you're describing? The non-conscious and conscious?

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unlimited energy means there is an unlimited amount of energy one can transfer from the universe to one's self.

"non-conscious" thing your talking about, are you speaking of things that have patterns, but just exist, with out "free will?" It can't be "curious" if it has no "free will."

yes that is what i was refering to. and i thought i had just explained that i was stating two types of entities and the part of curious doesn't apply.
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And because these deities and astral beings have no physical form, it doesn't allow them to have more access to channel energy as AwakeTooLong mentioned earlier. Honestly (and this is my personal opinion) we humans are in a body that can feel physically, project physical sensations, and have access to physical energy. Where as the deities, out of a physical form, cannot. And still, as humans, we also have to luxury of experiences emotional and spiritual energies as well. We are able to experience others energies, the world's energy, as well as the astral. We are able to transfer it, physically, spiritually, and emotionally.'
well said. and yes i am descring both non concious and concious. but humans can only channel so much energy within themselves before they combust.
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
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Post # 10
You're still being a bit misleading.
You're saying that "unlimited energy means an unlimited about of energy one can transfer to them selves, but there's only so much a human can handle."
So which is it you're trying to explain? that humans can only channel a certain amount of energy? Or that they can channel as much as they want?
I do believe that when one is experiencing too much energy, they must ground what is excess. I've even experienced this many times in circle. This is the reason for grounding. But I also believe this varies from person to person. An example being : one can handle more pain in their back than another. One can handle 100 degree weather than another, highly stressful situations, etc.

However, I think I can slightly understand what you're attempting to explain here, but because this comes off as a bit confusing, I cant say whether I'm with you on this.

By any means, I'm not picking on you, or telling you that you're wrong. Only simply trying to understand what it is you're trying to say. A slight suggestion when making your next thread, take a few minutes to put in perspective the true point you're wanting to make, and then giving some reasonable facts to back it up. This should make your post more comprehendible for others.



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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 11
Humans aren't going to combust. Spiritual energy and physical energy are not remotely interchangeable.

Physical energy describes the potential force of kinetic force (as in objects in motion, in terms of telekinesis and such), chemical reaction, electrical power, etc.

Spiritual energy describes intangible forces that have no corresponding reaction/action in the physical world. If they did they would have been weighed and measured by the scientific community, at least insofar as an unknown force impacting the physical world. If physicists are currently exploring concepts such as dark matter, the "god particle," and other such facets that were previously a mystery, you can bet they'd have noted another unknown force influencing physical objects. Particularly when it would be directly connected to the wills of others.

Spiritual energy, having no correlation to physical energy beyond the vague terminology of the word "energy," has no potential for combustion and otherwise no physical result from the utilization, exploration, etc. of spiritual energies. That being said, this is a generalized statement and certainly there is an alteration of human hormone levels, nervous response, etc. and other such factors resulting from interaction with energy. These factors, however, also do not cause combustion. Nor do they otherwise allow spiritual energy to translate into things like spiritual energies manifesting physically, telekinesis, etc.

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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
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Post # 12
The mind can channel as much energy as is needed, but the human body can only contain so much energy before it combusts.
And yes, excess energy can be grounded if too much is present.
The amount of energy definetly does vary from person to person.
I apreciate you are trying to understand. not many people in my 9th grade class do.
Thank you for your imput Tethaia, I will soon begin to edit.
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
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But still the human body is frail. that is a fact. if too much of any type of energy in the human body (or any living thing for that matter) will cause the cells's atom's energy to increase so much you can combust.
But for these energies to have effect on the world, that must transfer into measurable energy or matter.
Two mysterious forces science has named are dark matter and dark energy. These have been measured. Also, the DMT, the spirit molecule, has been measured and is widely known.
THank you for your imput. it has been nice talking to you AwakeTooLong
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 14
All of which I mentioned, excepting the "spirit molecule," and all of which have absolutely nothing to do with the combustion. For that matter DMT has not been measured in much of anything beyond it's ability to cause wild hallucinations when administered artificially. It's actual purpose is quite unknown, and any discussion about what it may or may not do to the human (or other animal) body is pure conjecture, as is how specifically it relates to various states of consciousness beyond obviously causing severe hallucinations when present in unnatural levels. Whether these are actual spiritual journeys or not is also highly speculative as the individuals are otherwise hallucinating, and so what they experience seems real. Even if they are, they are UPG experiences and rarely uniform from one individual to the next, thus providing no conclusion from such data either.

In short, you're making vast leaps, making statements as though they are fact, and then supporting them with nothing.

The human body will not combust due any of the factors that you discuss. Nor will it from channeling too much energy as, again, there is a vast difference between the theoretical "spiritual energy" and physical energy. They are only conveniently confused by people who do not understand the basic concept of this, or who stubbornly (desperately) wish for magic to be something more tangible than it is.
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