"I think while I was meditating, and I swore I saw a bright flash and for a brief moment, I was looking at my fish tank, but it was like through a old grainy video camcorder, while my eyes where closed. Then I could have sworn I've heard been hearing voices, but like when your switching through radio stations and only part of the voice comes in briefly between the static, though I was not even trying to do anything at the time."
-->>they are not ghosts or whatever, the noises you are hearing are the noises of your brain.. being much more aware about yourself makes you more aware about the noises of your brain.. the different thoughts that are coming in and out of your mind.. why? because as what you have said, you are trying to explain everything.. learn to tame first your mind by doing void meditation..
in doing void meditation, you must think that you are not thinking at all.. try to make sure that your mind is empty.. in this manner you will learn to discipline your mind and make you focus more about a single thought at one time..
I think its working alittle too well. I have no idea how to reason what happened today during meditating.
First I felt like I was vibrating but it was not a gentle vibrate but a hard one. Then I started to see fire, but then it suddenly became vibrant, and in 3D not like the dreamy quality at all. After that, I felt I was entering a Red Vortex. I am not religious of course, indeed Im just getting over being skeptical but I did not want to find out where it lead and pulled myself back hard. I noticed even when I opened my eyes I was still vibrating and it took a couple minutes for it to stop.
I have no idea what to made of it, I cant help but think its real since I remember every detail perfectly.
"I think its working alittle too well. I have no idea how to reason what happened today during meditating.
First I felt like I was vibrating but it was not a gentle vibrate but a hard one. Then I started to see fire, but then it suddenly became vibrant, and in 3D not like the dreamy quality at all. After that, I felt I was entering a Red Vortex. I am not religious of course, indeed Im just getting over being skeptical but I did not want to find out where it lead and pulled myself back hard. I noticed even when I opened my eyes I was still vibrating and it took a couple minutes for it to stop.
I have no idea what to made of it, I cant help but think its real since I remember every detail perfectly."
-->>as you meditate, you become much more aware with your surroundings.. this includes the energy around you.. the vibration you are feeling is most probably the energy you are sensing around..
"ye summoning is real,i can do it every time i want,but i cant see them or hear their voice,just feel the presence and kno wha they say from inside" thats because you need a higher vibration of the spirit meditate more often and believe you see and hear them with your strong WILL i see demons and hear them and they helped me allot they sometimes try to lie to me and try to make me evil but i know what i am doing and they allways fail NOTE: DEMONS ARE NOT THAT EVIL AS PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE GREAT ALLIES THEY HELPED ME AND MY FAMILY ALLOT AND ABOUT YOUR RESERCH PLEASE DONT EXPOSE US TO MAKE US LOOK EVIL ITS TRUE THERE ARE SOME MAGES THAT ARE EVIL BUT I AM NOT EVIL AND ONE OTHER THING DONT DO EVIL THING WITH YOUR POWERS AND DONT ABUSE YOUR POWER BECAUSE IF YOU DO THAT YOU BECOME EVIL AND MIGHT EVEN GET POSSESSED.
Can I just dispel a slight myth roaming in here about science. Any scientist that rejects theory without proof is in fact a very poor scientist. The whole world of theoretical physics revolves around ideas with only maths and no technical workings to back it up. As however I'm more into the biological aspect I'm going to use focus on that. In 1980 it was concluded that "The cloning of mammals by simple nuclear transfer is biologically impossible" 16 years later Dolly the sheep was born. Believe it or not scientists learnt from this mistake and now we desperately try to shy away from the word impossible but instead express it on a scale of relative odds. Currently magic is against the working theories and is, despite how much we all disagree with it, against the odds, obviously this doesn't mean it's not real it just means there are things science hasn't discovered yet. I actually find it quite close minded then to state that technology can not possibly access other dimensions. Certainly it can't currently do so but that's no reason to dismiss it altogether if we did that then we would never advance in anything, either in magic or technology. Believe it or not magic and science have crossed paths many times throughout history and more often than not it's emerged with the same conclusions. Let's take a look at basic psychology for example, believing in something makes it true for any individual and furthermore can help in accomplishing goals, sound familiar?
What I would mention however is that why on earth would summoning beings from these other plains by dangerous. As with all biology the individual would only pose a threat if we are either a potential resource or a competitor with the individual. As we do not share the same niche, we're neither of those and so the predicted outcome would be an indifference. But that's another matter altogether.
I have to agree with Yakov. I honestly believe science will catch up now they we are onto dimensions and the possibility of life in them. We apparently already have technology that can induce Astral Travel in ANY human easily. Which is pretty impressive considering people who use to do it had to spend a lifetime to do it.
That being said, Im not bothering with summoning beings anymore, Im beyond that. According to a Guru I've met who is helping me, somehow Im a very spiritual person and its taking me days to get close to astral projection rather then months and years alot of other people take. I still dont know if im not just seeing things, but stuff has happened to me i just can explain yet.
In these sessions, I literally feel something is lifting from my body and for no apparently reason my heart just starts beating very hard but it doesnt hurt, it just feels like im really alive. Im very close to getting a first hand perspective on these beings and the dimensions they come from, and its been a pretty amazing journey.
I just hope when I finally find what im looking for Im able to learn information to take back to try to make sense of this and further along our scientific understanding of these dimensions.
Re: Is Summoning Real? By: WhiteRav3n / Knowledgeable
Post # 27 Jun 26, 2012
The vortex and hard vibration is what it is to enter a trance. Let yourself go at this point and you'll begin to feel like your falling. Once you relax into that, you can either project or experience what is best described as waking dreams and what many call visions--stepping into your subconscious mind and truly experiencing all that you really are and know.
The vibrational stage you spoke of is the perfect one for magick. At that point, when you are still in slight awareness of your body, you can chant, sing, focus and literally feel with your whole being how your energy is responding and control it. It's an invigorating experience. Afterward, you'll be hungry, so have some snacks ready. =)
summoning is real as me and you. Rituals are not needed once your at point of understanding its a feeling. Demons are very much intelligent and your true intentions you cannot hide you must be dedicated and understand the condition, and patterns of this world before demons manifest before you.
Hi.. So you said that being exposed to these things will allow you to see them.. I've been exposed to some of the more minor things you mentioned like unexplainably shadows and noises and things moving and I know for a fact that the spirits are real but I have never been able to actually see or hear them... is that a normal thing or is it just they choose not to be seen or heard or am I just not trying hard enough or something because I would like to be able to see or hear them so I could communicate with them... Message me please with a reply! Thanks (:
