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1). Actual Astral Projection is thought to be the process whereby our etheric body, spirit or mind separates from the physical body, whilst maintaining a level of consciousness. Once separated from the physical body this etheric body then begins to operate at a higher frequency allowing it to travel on the astral plane. This astral plane also operates at a higher frequency than that of the physical plane and can possibly be likened to the Akasha. It like the Akasha is a place where all the thoughts, memories, fantasies and dreams of everyone in the world exist. The astral plane is thought to be a fantastic place to travel in, with many different travelers, entities and levels to it. When astrally projecting it is believed that although the conscious mind tries to impose a 'body' on the traveler, he/she has no 'body' as such but can change their form simply by thinking about it.

When traveling on the astral plane it is said to appear more solid than the physical, this is because in order to travel it you have to be existing and operating at the same higher frequency. The astral plane is believed to be far more mutable than the physical and is said to be changed and altered simply by the power of thought. Some persons believe that they can achieve astral projection at will and there are many stories from persons claiming to have left their bodies, having operated and existed at a higher level. In order to verify the experience and to ensure that the experience is not a dream, many persons engaging in this activity tend to project etherically first. This is so that they can confirm they have really left their physical body and are not simply imagining the experience.

2). Etheric Projection is believed to be the commonest form of astral projection and the term that is most often confused with it. Etheric projection is said to be the result of a conscious effort to separate from the physical body. Unlike astral projection this time the etheric body stays on the physical plane but simply separates from the physical body. It is often reported by persons who have experienced this phenomena that they find themselves next to their physical bodies or floating above them. Subjects often report the ability to move at speed across rooms, streets, cities, even counties and planets on the physical plane that their bodies normally exist in. As with astral projection the etheric body is said to operate at a higher frequency so this enables it to move through solid objects such as doors or walls. In many respects it is similar to an out of body experience the main difference being that etheric projection is achieved by a conscious effort to do it.

3). OOBE (Out of Body Experience) is probably one of the most reported and documented forms of astral projection. It is thought to be when a person's consciousness leaves the physical body. Out of body experiences are often associated with accidents or anesthesia. An example of this is the case where a patient on an operating table will report being able to see and hear the entire operation including the surgeons, from a vantage point above the table. Here the consciousness is said to have left the physical body, but will remain close.

Another example of this kind of projection, it is said can occur when an accident abruptly halts the physical body, with the non-physical body continuing on in the direction it was going. This type of sudden halt projection is also believed to be invoked by falling off a ladder, falling in the street, fainting, etc. In these cases the projection of the non-physical body is voluntary and not a conscious choice, and usually the physical body is believed to be unconscious for the duration of the experience.



Etheric Projection -

"ETHERIC PROJECTION"



"PREPARATION"


Do not attempt this when you are physically exhausted, or have just finished eating or at any other time when the blood is likely to be drawn from the head to other parts of the body. This is important. Your mind must be clear and active, not cluttered. Thus, a full complement of blood in the brain is necessary.

Take a bath and cleanse yourself thoroughly, including your mouth and teeth. In a word, remove from yourself as much extraneous physical matter as you can. Usually a shower is better than a tub. This cleansing process is very important, so do not neglect it. It has both a practical and a psychological effect, practical in that it will free you from both material and astral contamination, psychological in that you will actually feel mentaly and emotionally cleaner.

Put on a light garment, (or nothing, as you prefer). Select a place where you will not be interrupted. Sit ina comfortable chair with a back high enough to rest your head, or lie flat on a bed or couch.


"PRACTICE"


When comfortable and relaxed, take several deep breaths. These should be even breaths spaced in a rhythmic fashion. Inhale to the count of four, hold the breath to the count of four, then exhale to the count of four. The counting should be even and regular, never hurried, never too slow.

When the breathing has been completed,(when you feel totaly relaxed), close your eyes and visualize the place to which you wish to project. It may be the next room or it may be miles away; it doesn't matter. But it is important that you know this place, that you have been there and are familiar with it in all it's details. Then see yourself in this place. In order to do this successfully, you must shut out awareness of your present physical surroundings, shut out all sights and sounds, and see in your mind's eye the appearance of the place you wish to visit. Give this picture every detail it is possible for you to recall, the colors, lighting, arrangement of objects, the characteristic sounds, smells, all you would be aware of if you were physically there.

When you can actually visualize yourself in the place selected, look around. Observe how things are arranged, who is there, how are they dressed, listen to what is said. Then return your attention to your body seated in the chair or lying on the couch.

It is important that you retain full awareness at all times. Do not fall into a dream state. It is very easy to fall asleep but you must resist it. Good projection depends upon your ability to control yourself. The dream state brings illusion and unreality. Therefore, stay awake.

When you open your eyes back in your room, write down the exact hour and all that you observed. This is the correct way to do this.

Successful etheric projection can be done only by practice and meditation. Practice meditation for at least 15 minutes twice daily.(three or more times each day is better).



thanks to - http://members.tripod.com/~Gwion/Magick-dir/etheric.html for all the great info on the exercise and practice (this information can be found on my website too)
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Etheric projection is a new term for me.. and I appreciate this info. THANK YOU! Though, I will say this is that kind of astral projection I being working for so long.
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Nice Thread. Thanks for posting it.
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Very important. hey for v day lets bump up all the good posts. I'm just gonna be sitting her in the pc anyways.
I just saw an add for astral projection.com think I wil check it out.
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Thank you for posting this, I've been looking everywhere on ways to practice this
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I went deep astral traveling one night and found myself in a shop with old antiques, I bought a music box. When I woke up the box was on my night stand. My brother after I told him, said I hope you paid for it, to think you shoplifted in another realm. LOL. This is the only time I remembered astral traveling. I am very much aware of where I go now and what I do.
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Ooh, thats so amazing! Was it hard? I mean, did it take a lot of time before u did your first astral?
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Astral and Ethric are completely different projectory variations.

Astral is the serporation between less denser body and the actual physical body.

Ethric is the serporation of another less denser body from the actual physical body. Yet still more so dense than in ap but less than the in solid form or physical body.

Astral Porjection in simpler terms is like your mind and soul still connected to your body by energy just traveling through different plains. This is where your physical body is still in control of maintenance and staying alive mostly.

Ethric projection is when your slightly less denser body takes over resporation and other vital signs after seporating completely (not at all connected) and your physical body is left behind in a dormant state right next to death itself. Those who have accidentally ethric projected (not understadning what is happening) have often reported as "near death experiences", sort of like becoming a ghost...

I hope this clears up some things.
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Astral projection itself is fine and really great, tho easy. But isn´t etheric projection dangerous for the physical body ?

According to "The new Encyclopedia of The Occult" etheric projection can be dangerous, due to the potential for repercussion if the projected body is damaged in any way by conductive materials such as metals.

Another source from where I have learned and gathered my information speaks that etheric body is essential for our physical body, for our life, that etheric body is energy for physical body and if etheric project and stay out for too long, we die.

What are your responses ?
Waiting for response.

Sincerely,
Crim
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Oh yes, etheric can be very dangerous when you don't take the right precautions.

Etheric is when you completely detach from your physical body, all vital signs shut down and are taken over by your etheric or second most dense body. When this occurs your physical body is veeeery vulnerable. As your physical body lays there it is also extrememly "sensitive" to motion, sounds and other things that could hapen to it. What ever can wake you up from a dream, if any of those things happen when etheric projecting your etheric body will SNAP back into your physical body not giving it time to "turn on". After all, etheric projecting, at first will take a rather long time to truly happen, the techniques that can be done to accomplish ep (etheric projection) will not work immediately because again, your etheric body has to take over completely.

If something takes long to be done, it takes even longer to reverse safely. So the danger is disturbance. Do not ever, EVER ep where you could possibly be interupted or disturbed.
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