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I can't really answer your question. If I did, I'd have to say, "I do not even believe in heaven and hell." But that's only because that's what fits with my personal religious beliefs. I don't think that's the answer you're seeking. I can't give the answer as a Christian, cause I'm not.

But, as for your conflict about being interested in Witchcraft and worrying about such sending you to hell, I can say this:

I think that if you're interested in something, you should learn about it. Just be smart about it, check out sources, and don't automatically believe everything you come across. Weigh it against common sense and ask questions if you are confused about something. If you have people you go to for advice or support, talk to them about your questions.

There are plenty of books and sources to explain what Witchcraft is and what it's about, from all different sides and sources. Study all of it and then decide what you think.

Also, I think a large part of why you're interested in Witchcraft is because it's something 'forbidden'. It's something you're not supposed to be interested in, so that makes it interesting.

Of course, just being interested in something doesn't mean you have to do or practice it. I think it's the doing or practicing that would get you into difficulty and conflict with your religious beliefs.

For example: I'm interested in movies. I love watching them and especially viewing the interviews and behind-the-scenes stuff that explains what goes into making them. But I don't make movies. I'm not an actor, director, filmographer, or anything like that. I just enjoy films and enjoy learning about them. Know what I mean?

It's up to you how you decide to handle your curiosity. I personally think knowledge is the best thing you could seek. Knowing about something, whether you decide to put that knowledge to use or not, is best because it allows you to make informed decisions that are right for you. That's never a bad thing.

If you are a christian and you do not want to leave this, you don't have to really practice the craft- but to have knowledge you can.

By the way, I have read the bible and no where does it say that witchcraft/sorcery, palm reading or etc. are going to get you sent to hell. Perhaps you should take the time to learn how much witchcraft (ie. the same stuff we do at our ceremonies) is used in your religious services. So if we are going to hell you are too.

And most witches do not even believe there is a hell . Hell is a concept created by the Christian religion to scare it's followers into being good. Considering most wars ever known to man are started over religion, and the amount of people over the centuries that have been slaughtered in the name of the Christian God, apparently hell isn't scary enough of a punishment for them.

So don't be afraid, follow the bible if you want, nothing is written there about it, it is meant tp scare us.

Blessings,
UnderMoon


Re: Christian Witchcraft?
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"do you ever heard of iron maiden"
I've heard more of it than you apparently - the iron maiden is largely fictional. Few exist and historians believe that they were never employed. And it's not like this is some obscure historical theory available only in specific books - this is common knowledge and is even the first thing the freaking wikipedia page on the subject says. To get this wrong you had to do literally no actual research on the topic.

Congrats on verifiable proving you have no idea what you're talking about.


"''when god delivered humans corrupted'' nah really.."
What are you even referencing? That's a gibberish sentence which brings up no specific Google results. Please write it correctly enough that others can make sense of it and then try again.


"Exactly like i said christian bible is nothing but Stolen concepts from the original religions"
You've given absolutely no evidence of this. You can't just make grand accusations like that without evidence.

"its so blatant witch craft came from satanism witch simply means wise one"
Witchcraft developed in regions which had no Judeo-Christian influence, thus instantly disproving your idea that Satanism is the source of witchcraft.

As a bonus, that's not what "witch" means.

"Witch" comes from the Old English "wicce" and "wicca" which is where we get the modern word "wicked" from.

"Wise" comes from the Germanic word "weise" and means "wit."

Next time you want to define a word, start in the dictionary.

"and there are no wise christians sorry if there were they would know it be a complete hoax just goto www.exposingchristianity.com seriously.."

That's a pretty non-reputable site. Have any supporting evidence not written by a man in a tin-foil hat? Seriously, how can you say there are no Christians? There are billions of people who actively believe in Jesus Christ as the savior of man, which is the heart and soul of what it is to be Christian. You could argue that there was no Jesus or that he wasn't divine, but you cannot possibly say there are no Christians.

Re: Christian Witchcraft?
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Satanism does not have its origins from judeo christian the word itself is a holy word in one of the oldest languages of sanskrit
Thanks for proving that you dont know what your talking about

Second just because some guy in a tin foil hat on wiki says iron maidens never existed doesnt mean they didnt.. Im sure the christians that used them wouldnt keep them around for historians to ponder on probly just turn them back into scrap metal.
ask any priest of that so called religion and they will tell you witch craft came from satanism in there bible it means advasary or enemy
And there is so much evidence that proves the bible is nothing but stolen concepts and what i ment is that there are no wise christians sorry but there isnt or they would know there false religion to be a hoax...

Re: Christian Witchcraft?
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That iron maidens were not likely used is widely accepted as a fact within historical circles. My account is not just from wikipedia, it is in countless books on the fact.

The content of your anti-Christian site is not widely accepted as fact, or even legitimate theory, within religious and historical circles. Your account is just limited to non-credible websites.

Now do you have a source for your Sanskrit-Satanism connection or is this just more of your prejudiced ramblings?

Re: Christian Witchcraft?
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its widely accepted by who christians? Never the less there were witch hunts no one can deny that. Let me tell you the absolute proof that christanity is a hoax the book of genesis are based upon ancient sumarian tablets that were found in iraq now we all know sumarian mythology beliefs were that they belieaved in multiple gods thats why it says in the bible ''let us make man in our image'' us and our are plural meaning make them into the image of the gods. Now why would constatine make it heresy to belieave in more than one god if indeed there own beliefs were based upon multiple gods?

Re: Christian Witchcraft?
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Accepted by historians, not just Christians. And you need to cite proof because right now you're just spouting off groundless accusations.

And just for the record, I'm not Christian. I have no vested interest in defending Christianity.

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RE to: "there is no such thing as a christian witch it even states in there bible ''not let a witch to live'' there is nothing spiritual about christanity its mind suppressing and doesnt even support free thought.. "

I'm sorry, but you do not know the Bible very well. The word witch is a German word invented in 1458 by Heneric Kramer, and means in English translation literally "Satan Worshipper", it was not added to the Bible until 1611, when King James demanded it be put in, to support the witch hunting trails that were going on at the time.

The verse you are referancing orginially said "Herbalist" (which meant "Medical Doctor"). In 1611, herbalists, nurses, surgeons, and medical doctors were being slaughtered for witchcraft because it was believed that sickness was punishment from God, and anyone who removed God's punishment (by curing illnesses) must be working for Satan, thus a Satan Worshiper, thus a Witch, as that is what the word witch literally means.

Witchcraft in the King James Bible has nothing to do with spell casting, and in today's English translates to mean "thou shalt not suffer a physician, nurse, EMT, medical doctor, dentist, etc to live".

As for spell casting verses the Bible: Moses was one of the most powerful wizards to ever exist, as was Jacob, Daniel, Joeseph, and pretty much every other Bible prophet, and if you want to talk major spell casting, just read about the most powerful witch to ever grace the pages of the Bible, a man, you might have heard of him, he was called Jesus the Christ, he cast spells to turn water to wine, make fig grow on dead trees, cause donkeys to talk, and healed blind men by mixed spit and dirt and putting it in there eyes.

You might want to try actually READING the Bible, rather than quoting the missquotes of preachers who don't want you to know what really goes on in the Bible.

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I absolutely adore it when Bible readers lay the smack down on Bible thumpers. Bonus points if you're not even Christian.

A distinction Islam makes, and which I wish all religions would make, is the difference between a Qur'an and a translation of a Qur'an. Those are two different things - one is exactly what Muhammad(pbuh) reported having received, the other is an imperfect and human-altered approximation thereof.

You, dear reader, have most likely never actually read the Bible, just one or more translations. The original texts of the Bible aren't even all in a single language - various books were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. This not only means you would need to know three languages just to read the Bible, but it also means that there's almost a communicative barrier between books due to linguistic differences.

Re: Christian Witchcraft?
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Thanks to the one person that answered my question. I do want to say that I have been drawn to it since I was five. And people around me have been drawn when at the library to look right where a series about a witch sits? That is strange. The question I have is if the bible is referencing a sorceress or a witch. To the person that said "Do not suffer a witch to live," the original text of that verse was "Do not suffer a poisoner to live." That being said obviously the bible has been changed which is apparent because there are so many bibles out there. Revelations remains undeluded though. All I am saying is that I believe a sorceress would be someone that practices dark or evil magic. I just wanted to know if anyone believes the same as me.

Re: Christian Witchcraft?
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All I'm gonna say is that all of us have different paths and beliefs. So please respect each other's beliefs and opinions. To answer Amane's question I belief that Christians can still go to heaven even if he/she is practicing Witchcraft If they do not harm other people by doing it.

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