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Re: are black holes magic
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thing it would be a idea to check up void and veil energys and so on. might be somthing.
they bring up simularitys to black holes and so on.

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Re: are black holes magic
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personal opinion is blackholes in their universal sense are not magickal, however, blackholes can be created with enough energy, pressure, tension and focus, their depth can vary from physical nothingness, absolute nothingness, etheric nothingness, each layer is a different level of darkness and solidity one basicly has to be able to burrow through.
Black holes can be any size, from the size of a needlepoint to the size of a sun, the larger they are the more gravity and matter they will pull into them and reduce to a singularity.
Created blackholes have various uses, all depending on how far outside the box your mind is willing to look.
But do not believe my words, rather play and discover for yourself..
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Re: are black holes magic
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Black can be seen as containing all colors within itself and absorbing all energies into itself so that no light is able to be seen.Black holes exsist due to the immense gravity which draws all time, light, into itself thus pulling everything inward to it's core.
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Re: are black holes magic
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Before the birth of stars, the universe was a sea of atoms, with radiation spreading outwards taking the electrons out of atoms (ionizing them), eventually all the formed stars were surrounded with ionized gas.

What was the reason for this ? Black holes are the likely candidate. Rather illogically though this period was know as reionization.

Almost every galaxy including ours has a massive black hole at the center, and a common question is what are they?

A black hole is the remaining product of the collapse of a massive star, it has a gravitational pull so powerful that not even light can escape from its escape velocity ( now dont imagine this as you see in the films as a big swirling dark hole)

in supernova events in very large stars, once its reserves of nuclear fuel is used up the collapse starts and nothing can stop it, it goes on shrinking and shrinking becoming denser and denser passing through the neutron star stage, and as this happens the escape velocity goes up, and any star with less than 8 times the mass of our sun will end its life as a white dwarf or neutron star, if the star is more massive than this then the continued collapse is literally imposable and a black hole will form.

The concept of escape velocity, is the velocity an object must reach to be able to escape from the gravitational field from a bigger body, in the end the escape velocity of a collapsing star rises to 186,00 miles per second which is the velocity of light, meaning that light can no longer escape, and as light is the fastest thing the old star has surrounded itself with what is called as a ''forbidden zone'' of which nothing can escape. obviously we cant see them as they emit no radiation, but we can locate them by there gravitational effect on objects we can detect.

now we know that black holes are like I said formed from collapsed stars, but this may not be true for the ones found in the centre of galaxies which contain millions of solar masses. it is believed that these formed in the very early stage of the universe, and the first light the universe would have seen would have come from these black holes, this was by the matter heating up as it fell in the black hole causing widespread ionization, and the theory is thats why they are still with us embedded in the centers of todays galaxies.
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Re: are black holes magic
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Are you saying that this is how the world was created...?
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Re: are black holes magic
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darker master i love your post, makes me think of the quote"who needs fiction when we have this strange reality"...but black holes are thought to emit "hawkings radiation"(a thermal radiation with a black body spectrum, so you are right we cannot see it). the radiation actually is not created directly by the black hole but it is formed through anti-particles passing through the event horizon and being boosted into particles by the gravitational force.
A slightly more precise, but still much simplified, view of the process is that vacuum fluctuations cause a particle-antiparticle pair to appear close to the event horizon of a black hole. One of the pair falls into the black hole whilst the other escapes. In order to preserve total energy, the particle that fell into the black hole must have had a negative energy (with respect to an observer far away from the black hole). By this process, the black hole loses mass, and, to an outside observer, it would appear that the black hole has just emitted a particle.
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Re: are black holes magic
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This thread has been moved to Misc Topics from Other Spells Discussion.
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Re: are black holes magic
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Nice explanation Arcatuthus, that leads in to the end of black holes.

Now nothing is forever and this brings us to the way even black holes are not forever, Space is filled with what is called Virtual Particles which have lifetimes so short they can not turn in to ordinary matter, They appear in pairs carrying opposite charges and quickly destroy each other.

Now think about a particle and its antiparticle appearing just outside the event horizon of a black hole.

The event horizon is the boundary of the region from within which there is no escape.

Before the pair can destroy each other, one member of the pair may be sucked across the event horizon, while the other is sent in the opposite direction, if we could see this we could say that the black hole has emitted a particle from its event horizon, so that in effect the mass of the black hole decreases by the same amount as the mass of the emitted particle, thus leading in to a reduction of the event horizon and this process can happen time and time again. The black hole becomes smaller and smaller with the emotion of what is called hawking radiation, and finally evaporates in a final burst of radiation

There is more to this leading in to proton decay and space expansion,
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Re: are black holes magic
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oh my, this is why i love particle physics. it makes magic scientifically feasible. it resolves my own egotistical need to validate my beliefs! I wont speak to much more on the subject because it begins to become hard for me personally to wrap my head around enough to intelligently debate about. but proton decay is the tip of the iceberg relating to the higgs boson field(which to some would be the creative force of the universe in spiritual terms because it is the theory of a field that gives mass to all matter therefore making it "real") so i guess in relating to this posts subject you could say black holes are related to magic. as all physical phenomenon.
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Re: are black holes magic
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This is from my shadow magick practice.

Anyways. Myself and my Teacher worked and astral projected to a Black hole.

He said to touch teh Black hole for a few seconds and to watch myself. Because it can be over whelming and he was right. I did this technquie cause teh otehr ones made me depressed or I had to void my emotions.
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