Karma

Karma is a Eastern Philosophy, though now more recognized with Wicca. It is the belief that whatever you put out, is what you get back.

There are different variations including the 3 fold rule ( what you put out comes back 3 fold, thus do no harm ). But the basic principal is that you are the only one to control your joy/suffering, pleasure/pain.

In the Wiccan tradition, Karma is seen as a a force ( be it the God and Goddess or simply forces unseen ) that see's the deeds you do, and rewards or punishes accordingly. It is because of this belief that they teach " harm none " for the fear of it comming back to you.

The idea is simply this : Every action you do has a consequence. Now or in the future...even future lives. Cause and effect. Balance.

I'd like to know your theories ( if you have any ) on the concept of Karma. Either the Eastern philosophy, or the Wiccan one.

Well my concept of karma... is if you do something bad, something bad happens to you and vice versa with good deeds. it keeps balance i guess. yin and yang (im chinese XD) but its like what goes around comes around. i guess this is a pretty common view on karma.

Do you think Karma affects everyone..even those who do not believe in it?

i do healr, i think karma is a bitch, soo be her friend :3
karma will allways bring a balance to ones life it dosnt have to happend right away ican take iven 2-3 years, but it will happen.

karma is a power to great to control, just try to be at her favor

Lets say there is a woman who devoted her life to helping others. Homeless, deviant kids, the hungry, ect. She is shot and killed for her wallet.

How did Karma repay her good deeds?

well ther u need to remember that everything that happens cant be karmas falt, karma didnt shot the poor thing a random guy did it he controled the actions that he took and did it... now karma by reaction will creat a force of negative energy that will follow and fuck ( sorry for the word) his life, he will have really bad luck, hel get cought by the cops and arested, in jail hil be some ones bitch, some on in his family or close to him will die..ect ect yea so the lady was nice and help in her time, yes she died and never got her reward , but thats because the man with the gun got in her life path and stoped it..maby if she never would ahve gon to that place and gotn shot some good would have come her way, but some one with free will got to ehr first...cuz i can be the biges jerk ass hole in the planet or the nicest perosn but if a random guys come in my face shoots me or i kill myself well thows were actions people took and afected ur life path, making karmas plans for u usles.

the woman, if you believe in it, will have her place in heaven. Maybe it was just her time and God wanted her by his side. Theres so many things taht can happen. But the idiot who shot her will burn for all eternity and rot in hell =]

But Karma is the theory that what you do comes back to you. The idea behind it is that an invisible force determines your actions to be good or bad and will reward or punish you accordingly.

Now we talk about the guy who shot her. What if he had just lost his job and had no food for his family, and no means to get any. The gun went off by accident. Aside from the killing, was what he did good or bad?

ugh....u make my brain hurt healer lol

lol I do it to myself fairly often


The point is, with the concept of Karma, in my opinion..it doesn't work for those who do not believe in it. Guilt and thus actions caused by guilt are what drive the idea of Karma to be possible.

Some people may see the guy I mentioned as doing bad. No excuse for it what so ever, thus believe he will have bad Karma on him.

I however, can understand as a parent, where he is comming from and don't see the deed as bad. The end result, probably of his own guilt is bad...but stealing money to feed his family I do not see as a bad deed.

I think, true Karma, is up to the individual. Not a bunch of random people. What you put out will come back. If you put out guilt, you will inadvertently have actions to cause bad luck. If you are happy go lucky, happy go lucky things come back.

It's like the pedophile in prison who feels no remorse for what he did. We see him as getting his by rotting in prison. But he doesn't feel bad about it and is getting 2 square meals a day and an education. Is that really THAT bad?


I use the word Karma frequently. I will tell someone who just said something wrong to me and then got a paper cut that Karma got them. Completely as a joke. But who are we to decide what action are deserving of punishment and which actions are deserving of reward when it comes to other people?

Point being...let your own moral compass be your guide when doing magick and living life in general.