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Re: Neo-technomancy
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I like your idea of God just being a "higher intelligence" or technologically advanced being. Do you think it is possible that the concept of God was originally created by a person time travelling from the far future to the past, causing people to see him or her as "divine?"
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Re: Neo-technomancy
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Yes of course, if it about time ,i mean there are many cycle of time ,like ancient cyber age that were happen,or else who build pyramids,puma punku?and ancient battery found in middle east? ,so god maybe from golden age time ,then travel to downest age time ,helping

If it about place ,god came from golden age place planet to help downest planet, there will be fluctuation of time where the planet golden age or downest age ,for an example it said mars ever become same like earth cilvilitation ,but because nuclear war ,see as crater now in mars ,they are lonely planet now
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Re: Neo-technomancy
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You do realize mancy is divination and techno would be short for technology of any means. If you put it together, it means divination via technology.

This is an aspect in Cyber and techno craft. I would find techno Paganism as having more to offer than just divination, but that's my feeling. Techno Paganism has been around for a long time as I heard of it years ago. I found tarot cars on line as well (I don't know of the accuracy).

As far as Karma, that's been around for a while as well. Some people relate it physics, some couldn't care about physics.
Just my thoughts.
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Re: Neo-technomancy
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It is correct that the suffix -mancy originally meant divination. Over time, however, it came to mean "control" as well--the word necromancy, for example, means control over corpses or death. Neo, of course, simply means new; this is a relatively new path of magic. The prefix isn't necessary, and is only used as a formality; as mentioned before, it is often shortened to technomancy.
While neo-technomancy is quite similar--and perhaps even identical at some points--to technopaganism, there are some subtle differences. Technopaganism is the use of modern-day materials in magick, as well as the spiritual side of technology. Technomancy is the use of technology and exploitation of physics to explain and control the world through magick, while keeping in mind that magick is a technology. Technomancy is just as much about studying magick and figuring out how it works at a fundamental level as it is about casting spells. Unlike technopaganism, which often uses already existing forms of magick enhanced by technology, technomancy seeks to find and control more and more aspects of the natural/arcane world through the use of pre-existing magick enhanced by technology.

In this way, technomancy is an extension of technopaganism.
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Re: Neo-technomancy
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Necromancy does not mean mass control of corpses. Necromancy is divination by means of talking with spirits.

As for time travel, it is not a real thing. One cannot move backwards in time. Time is governed by entropy and moves forward only. There is no great mystery about how the pyramids were built. It was perfectly possible to design them using fairly simple geometry. And we have plenty of evidence of the progression of techniques used in learning how to construct something as huge as the Great Pyramid. No aliens or time travellers required.

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Re: Neo-technomancy
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I'm going with Lark on that info.
Maybe I can clear things up for you a bit. I very much like knoledge, so take my post as you will.
Technomancy
Technomancy appears to have originated from a short story written in 1990 by Steve Martindale. After this, Mind craft as well as other online computer and role playing games appear to have picked up on the fantasy fiction term. In the gaming division, this form of magick would be fake, though some aspects may have some validity in the actual practice of the arts (I've not explored all of it).
Mancy, is the Greek word used for divination. Technology also known from the Greeks as, ”science of craft” includes anything from prehistoric tools like the first hammer and how to create fire to present day computer usage.
Placing the two words together would basically result in a form of divination by using technology (often computers). This is actually done as there are online tarot card readings that can walk people through their questions. Sadly, it appears the gaming world has altered the definition making it less about divination and more about other things that have nothing to do with any form of Mancy.
The term techno-mancy, should not be confused with Techno Paganism, which is an actual form of practicing the arts utilizing or substituting technology of today (broadcasting music instead of using actual drums or believing things like cars have a spirit just as water or earth etc.).
Another term I’ve heard applied to the use of technology would be cyber craft or techno craft (same practice) which uses online candles and online people to conduct a ritual. Some use a computer screen for gazing into while others may use an online crystal ball. This aspect of the craft would be found in Techno Paganism.
While the term techno-mancy applies to divination, techno and or cyber craft often used in Techno Paganism, can run the spectrum of computer usage from on line divination, to online circles and books of shadows, to hacking.
Many Practitioners believe the Gods gave us technology, though some see the old Deities as demons. While I have previously heard of either a Deity or Demon being called upon to aid in computer workings, I can’t recall what one it was. I believe there may be an angel associated with it as well, but don’t quote me on that.
http://www.thetechnomancer-game.com/
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Technomagic
https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/technomancy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technomancy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technopaganism
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Re: Neo-technomancy
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I stand corrected.

On the subject of backward time travel, there is one possibility. I'm not sure it's feasible, and I doubt that humanity could do this, but Lark's comment on time travel prompted me to do some research. This is, of course, completely hypothetical: http://www.andersoninstitute.com/tipler-cylinder.html
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Re: Neo-technomancy
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Just a thought:
Socrates himself thought that the invention of the written word would be the death of true knowledge and learning. In his time, everything was memorized and recited instead of written down, and the new technology threatened the old tradition. In the 16th century, the invention of the printing press made some people worry that we'd all suffer "information overload" due to the newfound abundance of books.
Seeing as books and the written word have been used in, by, and around magic for centuries. Like any new technology, "science" (which in it of itself was only separated from philosophy and the occult after the counter-reformation and the witch-burning scares forced many a curious mind to swear off mysticism entirely in pursuit of knowledge) feels new and sterile. Many magic resources focus on patterns, correspondences, and tradition -- new technology just doesn't seem to "fit" right. But the atheme was novel in its day, as were bound spell books and fountain pens. In conclusion, there is no real reason why science and technology cannot exist in harmony and, yes, in concert with most magical systems. In fact, the more people who champion the belief that magic and spiritualism are no threat to scientific discovery, the more we can hope to reunite the pursuit of knowledge in all its many scattered forms.
But anyway, what I mean is that there is a reason why so many lauded philosophers were also scientists, and why recent discoveries in quantum physics have so many awesome and fantastical implications: because to pursue knowledge is to pursue all knowledge, not just a fractured semblance of it. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I think people should keep an open mind about alternative paths and new forms.
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Re: Neo-technomancy
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The Tipler cylinder isn't proven, I doubt it will be.
The usage of the word mancy has also not changed to incorporate non divination acts. It is what it is, saying it's changed over time doesn't make it true.
There is some type of path or practice that deals with Quantum theory.I recall a discussion in my coven a few months back about it. I can't recall if it was a path or a practice. I do recall it used quantum theories and applied it to the same info we have used in the arts for years. It was the same information, just relating it to quantum physics. It's the same with an energy manipulation practice. It just gives new names to old acts.
I don't know if it helped you or not, but best of luck on your path.
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Re: Neo-technomancy
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To Lark's point, and you'll have to forgive me for being curt, but the phrase "time travel doesn't exist" doesn't sit well with me. Not only is the matter not closed from a scientific perspective, but as a negation to the process of debate and discussion I don't find the statement constructive.
Of course, I'm not saying you shouldn't have said it, but it was a bit of a non-sequitur in my opinion.
Then again, I am easily bored and picky, so take this with a grain of salt.
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