The part where i did the mental stuff with sending mental message has made me appreciate it. Although i don't know too much, its not a 100% rebel thing. But i would be lying if i don't feel its psychologically having an effect on me. Although i have historical reason to dismiss christianity in some sense. And many more evidence on the two other abrahamic faiths. But yeah the hellfire thing has been printed into me ever since i was a child. So its not easy to break out from.
I don't know any wiccans nearby, which makes it hard to talk about aswell :=O
Re: Me again
By: prsona / Knowledgeable Feb 21, 2016
Post # 6
Seeker, whether you follow Christianity, Satanism (theistic or otherwise) or any other religion is something you will have to decide for yourself. But don't let any religion stop you from practicing magic, if you so choose.
Even if you choose to remain a Christian: The Bible is full of contradictions, such as forbidding the use of divination, yet requiring it of the Israelite priests; or of the fulfillment of Old Testament laws, therefore rendering them irrelevant according to some, yet still incorporating them in current dogma by the same folks. Hebrew culture, which became the influence in early Christianity, was deeply influenced by its varied past, and by the cultures of its slaves, captors, and neighbors.
I have some (as some would call it) pretty messed up opinions about Biblical history and some specific characters, so take what I have to say with a grain of salt.
That said, the Bible basically maintains that as long as you do not call upon any entity but one specific, then there's really no issue.
A very long time ago, people associated anything and everything with religion and spirituality. Certain methods were associated with "other" religions. The people of Israel were able to pray and make sacrifices, but communion with God was restricted to the priest class. And they did use divination (by use of the urim and thummim, as a direct example) and other practices now associated with different types of mysticism and magic (some believe they possibly scried using smoke in some cases). According to the New Testament, Jesus "opened the veil" to allow believers to contact God without the priests as an intermediary.
So ... to make a long post shorter, there is a lot of evidence -- both in the Bible as well as archaeologically -- which supports the use of magic as a believer in the Abrahamic God, in line with the laws set forth in the Bible.
Re: Me again
By: Brysing Moderator / Adept Feb 22, 2016
Post # 8
When I was at Catholic school I started asking questions when I was about 12. The first thing that puzzled me was that the father of Jesus was "The Holy Ghost" not Joseph. But St Matthew gives the ancestry of Jesus,in great detail, from Abraham to JOSEPH!
From then on, Christianity, for me, fell like a House Of Cards!
I'm sure that a good handful of us have been in a similar situation too. The best advice that I can offer, from personal experience, is to go with the flow. Life is an exploration with many expeditions. Our views will change as we grow older and as we gain new bits of knowledge from experience. Some people will find a new home and some people will go back to their old home. The idea may not even to be to get Christianity out of your head. Your mind will dispose of it or lock it away when it no longer deems it to be of importance.
In other to complete a picture an artist must add shadows and light,good and bad must coexist to make life possible,simply let go and proceed it will be difficult at first but that fear will dissolve in time as do all fears the more you indulge in them.