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Philosophy of God
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Post # 1
//WARNING// "please do not believe anything i say, but see it as a different perspective towards the idea of God"

Ok now that we have that out of the way. God, people have many ideologies of it, which bring a lot of confusion to the idea of what God is. In a christian stand point, God is an almighty omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient and benevolent Deity. But one can argue that such a deity cannot exist because if its all knowing, it should know the negativity of this world and how messed up it is, if its all powerful, then it should do something about it, and if its benevolent, how is ignoring peoples need and peoples pains benevolent? This is what many atheist argue that such a God may not exist.

But a person can also try to prove God in a sense of creation, a person can know the mechanics of a watch and learn how it works, but such a thing must exist first before knowing it, therefore to know how the universe works, is to also imply that the universe has a designer, which in a sense it is God. For many creationist, they use this philosophical argument against atheist.

There is one that stand out to be unarguable, which is pantheism. Pantheism is a doctrine that identifies God with the universe, or regards the universe as a manifestation of God. In a sense this seems logical, because scientifically we can from the universe, so to imply we came from the universe, we came from God, in a pantheistic sense. and since it is established that all things in the universe is equivalent to divinity, makes more sense because We as a whole or collective is God in a sense, because we are responsible for our self and we constitute how the world works. Individually we cannot change the word around, we must do it together as a collective.
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Re: Philosophy of God
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 2
The problem with Primates, and we are Primates, is that they are always looking to "change things". Other animals have curiosity, but only Primates seek to change things; to do things in a different way; to work out a better way of obtaining what they are trying to get. No other animal does this.
The tiger kills and eats always in the same way. The antelope always eats grass. The elephant always eats the same type of tree.
Only the Primate consciously does things differently; except when the other animals have no choice! Then the animal has to change. To adapt, or become extinct. And that is how, over millions of years, life has become so varied.
That is evolution. It has nothing to do with God!
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Re: Philosophy of God
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 3
Your last paragraph is dead on to the belief of most religions (of course not Christianity but Hermetics, Taoism, Hinduism, many Native American beliefs, ad nauseum) and it's especially popular among magick practitioners.

All of it besides the last sentence. And with that, I agree with Brysing that people want to change things so much and no other creature on Earth is so stubborn. In reality, their drive to change the world (and their environment) to suit them is the very reason why the planet is in the mess that it is in. Humans believe the world should conform to their needs and wants, and frankly, it's idiotic and destructive.
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Re: Philosophy of God
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 4
Amen to that, WhiteRaven!
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Re: Philosophy of God
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I dont think you understand what i mean, In a scientific sense, lets take this back all the way to the big bang, first off every matter, atoms, and energy derived from a singularity, we know most of the universe is made up matter, atoms, and energy. every life from on earth is derived from that singularity, that singularity could be defined as God in a pantheistic sense, every life form come to existence is part of the universe, in this universe, and most astounding fact is the universe is in every life from, even us, because knowing the atoms that comprise us came from those stars up in the night sky, and those stars came from that singularity. evolution is a way of the universe trying to know and understand itself, as we are the universe experiencing itself
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Re: Philosophy of God
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the difference of all the other religions you have listed, is that those religions believe in an independent deity, pantheism in scientific terms, nothing cannot be independent, as everything is dependent on many things. when you talk about that humans belief that the world should conform to their needs and wants, thats true in some sense, egotistically that is very destructive, but you wrong in one thing, ORIGINALLY humans never had that mind set of being so stubborn that they should change their reality, since the dawn of the existence of humans we were only trying to survive, because we were very helpless and weak, but one thing that distinguished us to becoming such a dominant species is our intelligence, which we can thank our ancestors for discovering fire because the meals our ancestors cooked over the fire broke down most of the hard nutrients the body couldnt break down, as a result when eating a cooked mean over time, our stomachs shrunk, and our brain increased, which lead us to becoming smarter, trying to survive this harsh world. its not merely because we were stubborn, its because our instincts for survive was so great which lead us to reshape the very existence of mans reality
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Re: Philosophy of God
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What about a meditation about a name of a God (or Goddess)? And ask him (her) what he (she) thinking about?
Like it how it performs some mystics, or for exapmple bahtijogis - se Ramakrishna and his vision of Kali....
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Re: Philosophy of God
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Post # 8
meditating on a name or actually just meditating in general for a long conclusive amount of time will release DMT in your brain, which causes hallucinations. Especially when you vibrate a name for a long period of time, vibrates the pineal gland which is responsible for DMT production
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Re: Philosophy of God
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I believe in the "living planet" theory: That the life on Earth is a part of the Earth's life, that is to say the spark of life came from Earth's energy. While that kinda sounds like Mother Nature/Gaia worship, I'm really agnostic about it.

What about other planets? Mars seems to be dead now, but it may have been alive like Earth. Other planets like Jupiter may be very much alive too. How, electromagnetic activity. Why not?
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Re: Philosophy of God
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The living planet theory contradicts a lot of natural selection and evolution, of course it support evolution but the way that we are really evolving is through natural selection, not earth energy, the spark of life came to existence because we now discovered there are microbes in asteroids found today which back during the dawn of earth, there were asteroids and meteors that flung into earth that probably had micro organisms living in it. And for the other planets, mars probably had life but by meteors flinging into mars the atmosphere collapsed and thus no air or water. and for electromagnetism lol every planet has electromagnetism because u have high energy radiation from the sun and gravitational fields around the planet thus making electromagnetism.
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