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The "old ways" non wiccan
Post # 1
Hi I am looking for someone who can help me. It is so hard to find anyone who truly has knowledge on the old ways of the craft. I would love to hear from anyone on the traditions of the old ways witchcraft path.

Re: The "old ways" non wiccan
Post # 2

Every witch has his or her own traditions. There are no set ways to do things. A witche's way is very personal, therefore some do not even like to share.

And people who practice magic and the craft tend to have some of the old ways tied into their own practice, so no one can tell you about that either since it is different for everyone.

Re: The "old ways" non wiccan
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 3
There is a great deal of "the old ways" in Wicca.I am not a Wiccan, but I have studied it, at least a little. And I know quite a few Wiccans; some who have been Wiccans since the beginning. Much of Gardner's writings contain things of the "old ways". Some of the early Wiccans are still alive;Maxine Sanders; Patricia Crowther; and quite a few others.

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By: / Novice
Post # 4
As mentioned above, there are sooo many old ways. Are you talking about British Traditional Witchcraft, or Bardic or Druidic mysticism, or Seidhr and Galdhr, or Voodoo, or Onmyodo? Some practices of what we'd consider witchcraft were part of religious clerical practice, and others were customary and practiced by common folk, these turned into superstitions and wishing rituals. The latter practices can be kept alive for a long time, but that doesn't make them effective just because it's technically counted as an old way of doing something.

I see from your profile that you're a tarot reader. That as an old way (relatively old way) would have probably been consolidated by the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn around the Victorian and Edwardian ages. Before that, it could have basically been a card game, and long after that the schools of tarot interpretation become some entirely new thing that isn't necessarily less authentic either just because it incorporates new concepts that Hermeticism didn't have.

I suppose that you can also look up 16th century or I think there might even perhaps be some 12th century grimoires out there, or modern summaries of the content of a grimoire or several grimoires produced in some area over the course of some time--sorry, I can't remember off the top of my head the book list with recommendations to that, but using the search function on Google or Amazon might turn up some of what you're looking for.

Re: The "old ways" non wiccan
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 5
Raven Grimassi has quite a few thorough books on Witchcraft. I suggest you start there.

Re: The "old ways" non wiccan
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 6
I was taught witchcraft in what might be considered "the old ways". Certainly before Wicca! I wasn't taught any "beliefs!". I witnessed "magic" demonstrated. I studied some "beliefs" later, yes.And much of various religions. I was taught that *magic" is the changing of one or more things into something entirely different. In other words, I was taught that witchcraft is a real, actual, Craft. And so it is! I was taught that witchcraft had nothing supernatural about it. That anybody could believe in any religion, and still practise witchcraft. And many do! I know of Christian witches, and at least two devout Muslims who practise witchcraft.

Re: The "old ways" non wiccan
By: / Beginner
Post # 7
I have said many times that I always recommend The Witches Bible Complete. It is a very good resource in my opinion for any witch.

Re: The "old ways" non wiccan
Post # 8
There are many ancient witchcraft paths. But well known are only paths from Eastern countries, Egypt, Sumer, Greece and Roma. Because in other countries was not written texts.
Or are known medieval witchcraft texts from Europe.
What path you have in mind?

Re: The "old ways" non wiccan
By: / Novice
Post # 9

"Egypt, Sumer, Greece and Rome" are not ancient witchcraft paths. Witchcraft is specifically an English term and each individual country/culture had their own names for the "magic" that they did. Their individual forms of "magic" are different than what you'd find in say, Nordic "magic" or British Traditional Witchcraft. Either one of these (and a slew of others) would be appropriate ancient witchcraft paths.

Heka (Kemet/Egypt) is not the same as other ancient cultures' forms of magic. Heka focuses on the written/spoken word and has associated actions. A lot of the forms of magic coming out of Europe are rarely if ever focused on the written word, much less to the extent that hekau (magicians) were.

Sumer had their own beliefs towards "magic", its practice, etc.

Hellenic beliefs generally considered the practice of "magic" to be hubris, something which was man attempting to out do the gods. Usually practitioners were referred to as fanatics.

Rome had much the same feelings towards "magic" and her practitioners.


TLDR: Magic is called different things in different places because they are different practices. Get your cultures and cultural terms straight.

Re: The "old ways" non wiccan
Post # 10
My opinion is a little bit different.

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