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Forums -> Other Spells Discussion -> Summoning Goetics?

Summoning Goetics?
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Could someone give me some info about summoning Goetics. I need to for a personal problem of mine and I've read about which ones can do which so I found one that seems perfect and was talking to somebody on this about it, who agreed he would do it for me.
As this person seemed to have a lot of experience in things like this I trusted him(?) to do it and he was nothing but helpful at first, he asked all about my situation, said he would research this particular goetic and do the ritual.
He then messaged me a few days later and told me the spirit had said he'd look into it to make sure my situation was all done properly, but he says I have to be calm or he won't help :S
Then I messaged the boy again asking some more questions which he didn't answer and he asked me some more, then when I went to message him he just blocked me.
I have a few accounts here so I've messaged him on them all and he just blocks me immediately, I don't understand it how am I meant to know what's going on and what I need to do if he won't even effing tell me? I'm really sad and disappointed as I was never anything but greatful to this person and it's like he's built all my hopes up for nothing then just dropped me.
So idk I'm assuming he's not doing it now and I need to do it myself..
I've read about seals and stuff and I've drawn the seal and I'm looking into casting circles, and the whole triangle thing can someone explain that? I'm not very clued on all this and I don't even know if I'll be powerful enough to do it myself (or deal with any possible unwanted consequences) but I'm so desperate. I felt like everything was going to be fine when the boy agreed to help me. But yeeeah, all you have is yourself I guess.

So, has anyone ever done this before? Are there different ways if so what's the best? Any info would be much appreciated, thankyou :)
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Re: Summoning Goetics?
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Post # 2
When summoning Goetics
DON'T

If you don't know what you are doing don't even put a thought into attempting something like that
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Re: Summoning Goetics?
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 3
This thread has been moved to Other Spells Discussion from Welcome.
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Re: Summoning Goetics?
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Post # 4
working with those type of spirits you have to show respect but they are powerful. just like Djinn. It sounds very complicated, but there are books out there for summoning them. and as always it doesn't have to be complicated it can be simple. look for books by Carl Nagel.
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Re: Summoning Goetics?
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Post # 5
Ok, I assume you have knowledge of Qabbalah and correspondences?

At the end of the book Goetia there is a list of incantations, curses etc. Read them with certain knowledge.
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Re: Summoning Goetics?
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Post # 6
Why shouldn't I do it? If I learn how to do the ritual properly, how to take the proper precautions, what to do and what not to do then it would be fine right? That's just what anyone does who has knowledge and years of experience so if I just do exactly what they do surely the results would be the same wouldnt it?
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Re: Summoning Goetics?
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Post # 7

I totally agree with Zrozexdon't mess with what you don't understand, I've done this for a very long time & wouldn't even attempting to do this is! It's ludicrous!/very dangerous! Sometimes we just have to hand our situations over to our deities, Divine timing is perfect timing. Please don't do anything silly, you don't know what your releasing!

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Re: Summoning Goetics?
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Post # 8

I think your just showing a lack of maturity in your throw the dummy out of the pram answer. People have advised you well.Most people would advise you not to do this as it's dangerus so If you do it, not come crying to anyone as you've been warned!

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Re: Summoning Goetics?
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By: KoKoEFFiiONG
"Why shouldn't I do it? If I learn how to do the ritual properly, how to take the proper precautions, what to do and what not to do then it would be fine right? That's just what anyone does who has knowledge and years of experience so if I just do exactly what they do surely the results would be the same wouldnt it? "

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There are times in life, especially when younger, that one thinks that doing something just because you have the capacity to do something means that it's okay to do it. Are you such a person?

Your comment lacks a certain degree of perspective. For instance, "surely the results would be the same." No two workings are ever the same. You do not have the same experience as the person who wrote the instructions which you've found, with evocation or even with that particular entity. Each is different. Even then, you wouldn't have the same experience as you would the second or third time you perform the ritual.

There is also the perspective of understanding exactly what an evocation is. You're requesting, the key word is requesting, the assistance of an entity for a specific task. That's the ideal. What reason does the entity have to aid you? Would you be more likely to get aid from a stranger or someone who you've built a relationship with? Would you be more likely to get aid from someone to help with improving your mother's non-treatable cancer or winning over a girl you're infatuated with? The examples can go on.

People that do things just because the capacity to do them is there lack such perspectives. The perspective for them is centered in the ego view. They are their own star in the reality show that is their life. They don't see that every actor has a life outside their show.

Those being evoked do have lives outside the evocation. You're pulling their attention away from it. Is it for a very good reason? Would they think it is? How would they react for being desturbed due to lack of knowledge of the situation you're finidng yourself in? They have different values and norms than our current society.

These are some things to think about.

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Re: Summoning Goetics?
By: / Novice
Post # 10
Yes, I have done Goetic evocation before.

If you are posting here asking about it, you are not ready to do it. As I have said many times before, when you are ready you wont have to ask how to do it.

Goetic evocation, and really any evocation and invocation, can open you to more primal forces than you deal with normally. Or, maybe open deeper, primal layers of your subconscious. Same thing, either way. Part of the training that you do for years before is making sure that you are emotionally, psychologically and spiritually able to deal with what you are sticking your nose into. And how do you deal with something that doesn't agree to follow the rules? It laughs at your banishings? It's much more than just memorizing a ritual and then trying it.

You need to focus on the basics: meditation, energy exercises and basic ritual, in that order of importance. In orders like the G.D., you would spend at least 4 years doing these basics, as well as learning other materials, before you tried anything like that. And, when you did, there would be a more knowledgeable mentor there with you when you do to save your rear when things go bad.

Some people are going to disagree with me. That is fine. You can make your own decission. The danger of doing these things before you are readi is real.

LVX,

Shawn.
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