The Definition of Demons

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The Definition of Demons
Post # 1
Well, In my opinion i think demons are spirits that have never lived on earth or had an physical form. I also believe that they work for "satan/lucifer" If you study and practise demonology you will know what i am talking about.

People think that demons are bad. but infact they are not bad and they are not good. well really it depends on the demon you are dealing with.

For me i truely think that demons trick us, and tell us lies. but thats beacause they was made to do that.

Well like i said this is all my opinion please share your opinions id love to hear them.
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Re: The Definition of Demons
Post # 2
Oh look... an interesting post =D. Though... some grammar should be worked on.

Many people will argue and state that demons aren't good nor evil and don't necessarily follow Lucifer/Satan because the term comes from the Greek word Deamon, which more represented many nature spirits.

I, on the other hand, wish to point out that that there should be a seen difference between deamons and demons. Where one word does originate from the other, they both are meant to identify two different types of spirits. Deamon, as stated, is a term meant to identify spirits in general, while demon is a term to identify chaotic and dangerous spirits. As for alignment, their tricky and chaotic nature, or dangerous nature, can be made to align then with a more negative moral status. When it comes to whether they are good or evil by choice, I have this to say.

What we know of demons, or the judeo catholic version, the chaotic and dangerous form I mean, is that they are spirits, more specifically angels, who chose to rebel. It was a choice that led them to this state of being. Again, this is all debatable, but you asked for separate belief and opinions, so after studying demons and the conjurations of demons, this is what I've come up with.
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Re: The Definition of Demons
Post # 3
WOW...Father satan isnt evil at ALL.Demons in other words gods dont have time to fool around with humans only if there serious an want to advance spiritually.Demons are here for us satanist like me an many others to help us advance an reach godhood.Satans wants to finish his work upon humanity but he was stopped along time ago from doing so.The gods who were put as demons are beautiful father satan has been here all my life..An they were here since the beginning of time
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Re: The Definition of Demons
Post # 4
Oh lovely, a Satanist.
For one, let's leave religion out of this because there are many different points of view towards demons. For example, one such as I would consider them, as stated fallen, while one such as you would consider them "gods". Personally, I believe in the whole "One god above all others", and not because of the fact that I'm christian or catholic. Mind you, I study summoning demons, so it would be oxy moronic. No, I just also follow some philosophical views, such as that of Xenophanes. Anyway, the moral alignment and image of demons can be argued. One could argue they are beautiful, and that might not be an entire lie, after all, some beliefs state that they were angels at first. More so, image does not represent moral alignment, "book by it's covers" you know?

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Re: The Definition of Demons
Post # 5
Literally, that is one of the most intelligent arguments I've come across here. Props for you Darkked. ;) Keep up the good work!
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Post # 6
I know! but thats a big problem with soo many people..Everyone has a different view.For one satanism isnt a religion.Second fallen in the bible or in other words when they say there a code word for kundalini serpent that has fallen..Im not trying to argue with anyone on this.But i have been very dedicated to satan over the years an i can tell you no he isnt a fallen angel it would be very stupid to think that.To really understand the Bible and see the truth, one must be very well educated in the occult. The mass mind is very powerful. When one studies long enough and acquires advanced knowledge of the occult, the truth is utterly shocking. The entire Judeo/Christian Bible is a hoax of catastrophic proportions with a very clear objective using subliminal means and the channeled psychic energy of believers.

Whenever Christianity or its cohorts took control of a country or region, the ancient spiritual texts and records were removed and/or destroyed and those who had spiritual knowledge were mass murdered by the Inquisition. This took out of circulation the very knowledge those in power have used and still use to manipulate the ignorant population using spiritual/occult power. The Bible is one of the most powerful subliminal tools used by a select few to enslave the masses. Most people are unaware of this because they lack knowledge regarding the occult, thought power, and psychic energy. The powers that be work to reinforce the belief that the occult, powers of the mind and spirit are nonsense or just plain bunk.

Destroying the ancient records allowed an alternative invented "history" to be written which has disconnected humanity from its true origins. Controlling history is important because if one manipulates how people see what we call the past, this influences the present and the future.

The entire Bible is an extremely powerful subliminal tool full of occult numbers, messages, allegories, and stolen material, which has been corrupted from ancient religions. In addition, this book has been infused with psychic energy and power to instill fear and to make it believable. When one's eyes are opened and one has the necessary knowledge, the *spell* will no longer be effective. The entire underlying theme of the Judeo/Christian Bible is the establishment of the fictitious history of the Jewish people in the mass mind. What the mass mind believes has power and the energy to make manifest in reality as thoughts are energy

There are vacuum-sealed vaults in the Vatican library containing thousands upon thousands of ancient esoteric books from around the world that have been stolen and hoarded over the years and kept out of public circulation. The Catholic Church, which is the root of the Christian religion, is controlled by a secret society that has abused occult power to enslave the masses. The end goal is the total enslavement of humanity, which they have worked towards relentlessly and ruthlessly.

All of this has directly affected each and every one of us. Humanity has suffered unnecessarily because of the denial of this knowledge. People have been coerced over the centuries into paying for their own damnation to the tune of billions and billions of dollars to keep this lie prospering and continuing strong. The survival and prosperity of this vicious hoax on humanity requires only ONE thing- A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!

Contrary to what most people have been indoctrinated with, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are relatively new religions. Humanity goes back tens of thousands of years. These three have worked relentlessly to keep us from spiritual/occult knowledge and using this power, of which all of us have.

These so-called "religions" are built upon murder, torture, and lies and the only way any lie of this magnitude can survive is to create more and more lies and destroy the peoples who know the truth. Christianity is nothing more than a program. There is nothing religious or spiritual about it. Millions of people suffer depression, hopelessness, and confusion about life. The soul needs light and very few know this or actively practice the power meditation that will literally "save" their own souls. Because of a lack of knowledge and ignorance of the occult, Humanity as a whole has been placed under a powerful spell using occult power and indoctrinated not to question, concerning these three so-called "religions." This has been reinforced by centuries of Christians being duped into supplying their psychic energy and souls to be channeled into perpetuating this lie, which in the end, will only benefit a select few.For too long, so many lies and so much misinformation have been spread about Satan. Many of us have seen him, have conversed with him, and have even been astrally touched by him. Nearly all of us who know him agree concerning his appearance. RHP religions have for far too long, written the book on how they believe him to appear, how they believe Demons to look and these are nothing but blasphemous lies. He is not red with horns and a tail, nor does he look like a Halloween monster. He does not have flaming red eyes or rubbery wings. These depictions are intended to insult, denigrate, and blaspheme him. (There are some lower orders of Demons. They are protectors and messengers who serve the higher-ranking Demons). Here are images of how Satan appears to those of us who have seen him. Contrary to Satanism being labeled as "darkness," Satan appears wearing a long white robe identical to what he is shown wearing in the images below. Many of us see him often and have a very close relationship with him. He is beautiful. His appearance is almost exactly like in the pictures, other than he rarely appears with wings.
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Re: The Definition of Demons
Post # 7
Why such a long post. Bleh, it's annoying to have to read through... well... garbage.

For one, do Not demean another religion. This is a place for open tolerance of all beliefs. So despite your nonsensical theory that the bible is a mass spell on all of humanity to enslave them, keep that idea to yourself because mass conspiracy theories hold little to no proof and are all skeptical. So please... Please don't bring such nonsense to an educational area, keep it between you and your little underground pals.

Though I am not christian or catholic, I'm highly disappointed that you would demean that religion, and that's exactly what's wrong with the world today. What ever happened to peace, acceptance and tolerance -_-.
Anyway, Satanism is a fairly Recent belief, more recent than christianity. More so, the term Lucifer or Satan, didn't even really arise until the coming of christianity. If I am correct, please correct me if I am wrong.
Continuing, Judaism is a fairly old religion, one that does have background in other beliefs. Yet that is not the point we are here to discuss. We are not here to discuss conspiracy theories, we are not here to discuss what religion is right or wrong, simply different view points of demons.

Also, that whole "He is a beautiful being of light" nonsense. I said it earlier, perhaps he is, but a book should not be judged by it's covers. A small frog in the amazon, I don't recall it's name, is spotted and comes in different, beautiful colors. Yet, it's one of the most poisonous animals in the amazon. Often colorful is a code for warning. Whose to say this can't be employed outside of physical means?

Let's leave the bashing of religion out of this, it's pointless because no one can say, for sure, that they know the truth, despite who you are or what you believe or have "seen".

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Re: The Definition of Demons
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 8
Darkked is quite right. Satanism was birthed well after Christianity. "Satan" is a title, meaning "adversary." The word was never associated with a deity until various satanic cults arose - after Christianity. At least so far as I understand it.

Further, being dedicated to Satan paints your entire point of view in a religious point of view. Worshiping anything, and adhering to its dogma, whether you have created it or it is the work of another, is a religion. The entire reverence/worship concept is more a direct response to Christianity and has no almost no root in historical fact.

Back to the topic at hand, modern demonology, as a study, is influenced by medieval Christian propaganda as well as more ancient politics involving the rise of Zoroastrianism and Hebrew faiths. Most of the demons named in works of modern/medieval demonology are pagan deities, local spirits, and the names of various Persian/Hindu spirits that were painted in a negative light in the conflict between those two conflicting schools of magical philosophy - well before the birth of Christianity and the rise of monotheistic Judaism.
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Re: The Definition of Demons
Post # 9
This is true. In fact, Bael, also spelled Baal, is a demon mentioned in the Goetic text, but has also been a worshipped throughout history as a god in his own standing. In fact, it was even seen that king solomon, a figure mentioned in Judaism and Christianity as a king of the Jewish nation, even adopted the worship of different gods, and though I'm vaguely sure, I believe one was Baal.

Some mythical creatures found in Greek mythology can even be found in this text, including an image of Pan, or the centaur.

Yet, though these predate judeo-christian belief, one could argue that all of spirituality does, and so, all stories about religion, demons, angels, spirits, etc. are up for grabs as the truth. Though, I will say this.

Earlier I mentioned Xenophanes. This character was a Greek philosopher who thought up of the concept of Monotheism long before the rise of christianity. He believed that the current gods were too close to humanity, and that any being with conscious though would generate gods similar to themselves. Therefore he believed that there was, in fact, a god who was above all gods, but we could not being to understand nor grasp.
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Re: The Definition of Demons
Post # 10
Let me clarify, I'm not saying Xenophanes was the first the think up the idea, just another person who accepted it as a possibility, predating christianity and aside from judaism.
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