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Qabalah, real or false?
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Post # 1
Qabalah is a very respected science no question...but there are some points I`d like to ponder with you:
99% of Qabalah texts postulating that there are a great deal of energies in the cosmos, if Man(magician) pursues the right techniques according to Qabalah instructions he can control them to achieve change in conformity around us(that is the magic as Aliester Crowley point of view), so far I admire that...
And the same texts claiming also...by meditation or concentration on a specific symbol you can charge yourself with those energies and later you apply them in magic operations!!!And I don`t know the reason of their heavy streaked inclination with meditation!!
How Come???
Just by few minutes of meditating postures or just concentrating on objects or symbols I drive all that massive amounts of energies??!!!!
And we mustn`t forget that they are cosmic energies(tremendous powerful at amazing high distances in the universe),by just simple meditating sessions Man controls them!!!
Meditation means set on the floor, eyes closed, inhaling and exhaling by sepcific rhythm...setting without actions without moves, even without uttering a spell...and it is traditionally known that magic was occurred by actions and accomplishments of hard deeds, do that negative static state of contemplating drives to me universal energy??!! I don`t think so.
If anybody has a relief answer or a sturdy evidence to the texts credibility...answer me.
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Re: Qabalah, real or false?
By: / Beginner
Post # 2
Qabalah is about a lot more than just meditating when you meditate the raw cosmic energy of the universe flows into you then you can use your will to direct that energy for a purpose that's all any magic is, making a change in accordance with your own will but that's just the beginning there is so much more to it than that and just because you use a different method doesn't make your magic better
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Re: Qabalah, real or false?
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Post # 3
Ok..But all Qabalah techniques-methods-learning depending heavily on contemplation(meditation), and this word annoying me too much...because all sacred qabalistic texts(whether modern or ancient) are built on imagination and meditation...as I have said before they claiming if you want to drive a heavy cosmic energy just do the boring meditation sessions and imagine the energy comes down to you and later it will...what a ridiculous!!!
That means also if a guy wants to have the wrestler Batista muscles, just imagine that your muscles inflating and get larger, later you get it!!!
And if a dame wants 2b a rich, just imagine that she has many big sacs of money...and later she`ll get it!!!
If anybody wants to absolve Qabalah from those facts, he is welcome.
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Re: Qabalah, real or false?
By: / Beginner
Post # 4
first there is a difference between absorbing energy from the universe and things happening because you imagined them happening second have you ever actually studied Qabalah meditation is only like 1/100 of what Qabalah teaches
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Re: Qabalah, real or false?
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Post # 5
Yeah, and that whole "imagine it and then it happens" thing is not Qabalah either. Qabalah is the study and utilization of the powers of the archetypal sephiroth, not just a bunch of meditation and visualization.

I don't know where you're getting your information from, but I'd suggest a different source. Here, try the Mystical Qabalah by Dion Fortune.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/58238495/the-Mystical-Qabalah-Dion-Fortune
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Re: Qabalah, real or false?
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 6
It might be worth noting that much within magic is rooted within meditation and visualization. If you don't like it, then magic is likely not for you until you learn patience.
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Re: Qabalah, real or false?
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Post # 7
you are right,Qabalah teaches many things, techniques of nature processes-various worlds and various space times-the tight between the created and source of creation...and so on.
All that is the just literal or knowledgeable...where is the practical part?
But when all those valuable things and secrets be really useful?
by just knowing them and carving them in our memory?or by gaining the benefits they are supposed to give by practical methods?
yes qabalah teaches a great deal of sacred information and important for every being has a mind...but all authors and masters of this field postulating that the only practical part of Qabalah depending on meditation, though imagination and meditation here has many shapes in acting to serve a specific purpose, but they finally are the same pattern, the same core...meditate and visualize
And there is no relation between patience and my post here, because its intuitive for any little-headed man to know what is the topic before him is all about...reading too many books-texts-articles in Qabalah and finding that all the practical work in all those documents the same...sitting on earth, eye closed and then imagine my dear and you will get whatever you imagined!!!
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Re: Qabalah, real or false?
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Post # 8

You said [there is no relation between patience and my post here, because its intuitive for any little-headed man to know what is the topic before him is all about...reading too many books-texts-articles in Qabalah and finding that all the practical work in all those documents the same...sitting on earth, eye closed and then imagine my dear and you will get whatever you imagined!!!]

You see Hammo you really don't get the real meaning of Qabbalah first learn to respect the knowledge ,Qabbalah is not about Imagination ,what I see you just wana get benefit if you don't get it from Qabbalah you've labeled it fake or you wana say ''Abracadabra ''and things gona done for you that is what you wish Qabbalah to work for you in that way ? No lol

Qabbalah is beyond your Imagination which can be learn through great dedication

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