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Seidhr Basics
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
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**When it comes to Norse/Germanic magick, it is important to understand a bit of terminology to help you grasp who did what. Traditionally, "volva" was the term used for a "prophetess", a "sybil", or otherwise a "wise-woman". Likewise the term "Thul" meant "wise-man", "sage" and "bard". Under these names, there were subsets to describe the type of magick they were most adept in. "Seidkona/Spakona" is the term used to refer to a woman who practices seidhr. "Seidhmadhr/Spamadhrmadhr" is the male version of this. There are many types and varieties of "Norse magick" but this article will only be dedicated to one main type: Seidhr. It also can be spelt: Seid, Seidr, etc.**

Women and Seidhr
Typically, women were the main ones who practiced seidhr. Volva was the term given to the women who traveled and taught/practiced seidhr (specifically oracular seidhr). The term volva can mean a variety of things: 'staff barer' , 'soothsayer', 'seeress'. These women were not associated with any clan, or specific lineage. They often lived isolated, and would travel to and from villages to do seidhr work. It was typical for these women to travel, sometimes in groups, to various towns and villages. Essentially, the leader who practiced seidhr would sit atop a seat and if she was accompanied by others, they would begin galdr, or the singing of spells (calling the spirits, etc) and weaving of songs to put her into an altered state. During this, the volva would 'fall into a state of ecstasy' by trance-work or similar means. While in this state, the one practicing seidhr would seek answers to questions through a sort of divination with the spirits, the deceased, etc.

In Eriks saga, there is a description of what most of these women wore. "Animal skins: including boots of calkskin and gloves of catskin"(Paxson). It is also common to see these women depicted as carrying a staff in their main hand. Hence why they were sometimes just called "Staff-barer". The staff itself was important, as it was seen as a "rod" that channeled some of the energy needed to work Seidhr. It is also said that is was sometimes customary for a sacrificial/offering meal to be made for her using the hearts of any living creatures that were available at the time of her visit.

You wont come across much, if any, solid information on men who practiced seidhr traditionally. "When we find hints that seidhr was also practiced by men, we are reminded of the ceremonies (said to be shameful) associated with Freyr. One of Harold Fairhairs sons was said to have worked with seidr with a company of eight followers.. His descendant Eyvind also practiced seidhr. However, it is clear that there was great hostility against these two men and both were killed by members of their own family."(Davidson)

Freyja: Goddess of Seidhr
"Snorri tells us that she (Freyja) taught the craft of Seidh to the Aesir."(Paxson) and it is thought that Freyja was Priestess to the Vanir. Because Odin, at one point, shows that he knows Seidh magick- it is thought that Freyja was the one who originally taught it to him. More evidence for Freyja being the one to teach this type of magick: the volva that I mentioned seen in Saga of Erik the Red is wearing clothes made from catskin, which is a sacred animal to Freyja. She is seen as a mentor to some who seek guidance in learning Seidhr, so it is common for women learning this to cover themselves in gold, amber and other jewelry (some prefer cat symbols in their jewelry).

Basics of Seidhr
*I will be largely avoiding oracular sedihr, as that would take far too much time to discuss. Im keeping this very basic.

"The magick of Seidr as described by Edred Thorsson and Freya Aswynn, includes divination, soul travel, shape shifting, necromancy and cursing."( Ed Richardson)

Seidhr is seen to be similar to shamanic practices from other cultures, and often involves things such as altered states, trance-work, divination and many more. It is a type of magick that rarely dealt with the runes at all. Instead, it was more centered around the spiritual aspect of things. Most commonly you will find mention of it throughout the sagas such as Saga of Erik the Red, Heimskringla, etc. It is mentioned once as being a power Odin possessed.

There are three basic pillars to Seidhr.

The first pillar and the key to seidhr is learning and practicing altered states and getting into a trance. Refer to the articles I have posted about the various paths for different aspects of altered states to get a brief introduction to each one. Sometimes reaching these altered states is referred to as "seething" because it is common for a trembling/shaking to occur when someone has hit the peak of one of those states. This really is a paramount step in the entire process of seidhr. Once must learn to "block out" the world around them. Ideally, this should be done through meditation and will. But, of course, there are other ways. Drugs, herbs, etc have all been used before. The song used falls under this category. It is very important to getting into the state you desire. This song is supposed to b e sung as if from a higher power- so it does involved "letting go" so to speak, to achieve the ecstasy. It also has a very straightforward and clear purpose." We sing open the doors to the otherworld. We sing out to our spirithelpers, so they may know we're calling them. We sing to a tree to honour its beautiful power. We sing the invisible threads between us and our spirithelpers stronger. We sing a mound open, so we can talk with our ancestors. We sing pains and spirits of illness away. We sing thanks to the plants we harvest. "(Annette Hst)

The second pillar is the soul-travel that is done after the trance is achieved. This is where the "bulk" of all the working is going to be done. Soul travel is also known as faring-forth, sitting-out, pathwalking and journeying. During this stage, a lot of different things occur- which is why this stage is important and probably the most complex to explain.

"Soul travel is related to divination so shall now be considered in more detail. Shamanic traditions work on the basis of different levels of reality: the consensual, everyday reality and the other world/s. The World Tree appears in most shamanic cultures and acts as the axis-mundi, or centre of the universe, connecting the different worlds and realities. In the Northern Tradition, the horse has related symbolic meaning, representing a means of transport to the other world (the shaman being the rider). Similarly the world tree is called 'Yggdrasil', or Odin's steed."(Richardson)
In a sense, "soul traveling" is "climbing" the World Tree, or traveling the threads connecting the realms.

Once youve directed yourself to where you need to be for whatever type of working you intend to do, you can begin right away. Some use this state for healing (whether it be the healing of ones self or of another person.) Its been said that sometimes the first time a new shaman enters this stage of Seidhr they can awaken "Shaman Sickness". "The term denotes a period of illness (often seriously life-threatening in some way) which is caused by the Gods and wights in order to completely remake someone and turn them into a shaman. The phenomenon of shaman sickness is found in tribal cultures around the world, with remarkably similar sets of traumas. It is the hallmark of the classic shaman in many parts of the globe."(Raven K., keep in mind we are using these terms under a Northern-Shaman approach). Healing can also be approach for other reasons, including healing of the soul. There is such a thing as a "soul map" in these traditions that is a divinatory chart. Different parts of this map represent different parts of the soul and the body, and is then used to "divine" via runes and stones. During the state of seidhr, this would be an ideal time to seek answers to problems the person you are working on is facing from a health aspect. Providing I have time Ill write an article on hyge-craeft, which is essentially "craft" work with the soul.

During this stage you may work with your spirit guides and animal totems. We refer to our animal totems as our animal fetch. Sometimes certain animal fertches may be called: fylgja. These are the animals/creatures that accompany us throughout our entire life. This animal conforms and molds to the persons personality, and it is believed that our well-being depends on the well-being of our animal fylgja. (Be careful, sometimes fylgia is a term that refers to a female spirit that is attached to a person throughout their life as well, hence why I support using the term "fetch" to differentiate the two!)

"In Scandinavian folklore, each person has an animal shape which follows him like a shadow and can be seen by the second-sighted (although what is seen may be the hamingja, see below). Shamans can shape-change astrally into a variety of animals to go journeying. In the Ynglingasaga, Snorri tells us that among the seidh skills possessed by Odin was the ability to go forth in animal form while his body lay as if sleeping. His ravens may also be projections of his consciousness. Freyja can take the form of a falcon and possibly a sow or a mare (the latter are two of her epithets). Someone who changes form easily is hamrammR-- "shapestrong"; a journey taken in another shape is hamfarir; hamask means to fall into a state of animal fury; hamslauss to be out of one's shape; and hambleytha is the act of leaping out of one's skin. One is reminded of the Navajo term, "skinwalker" for a witch who takes wolf form. For simplicity's sake, I favor referring to a spirit guide who appears in animal form as the hamingja, and the shape which an experienced practitioner of seidh uses for astral travel as the hamR." (Paxson)
Ill go more into this idea by itself in a separate article. Theres just too much to write for now.

Another thing that is done, though not commonly, is spirit possession. During this part of seidhr you open yourself up as a vessel to let a deity/spirit work through you. You become "the horse" and the deity "rides" you. There are different purposes for this: 1) Training/Practice 2)Gaining information or knowledge 3)Display of devotion 4)Errands for the deity 4)Becoming a channel.(Raven K). I am just now starting to learn and practice this path, so bear with me-as I have not yet figured out some aspects of it.

The third pillar is rhythm. This pillar is apparent from the start through the entire process of seidhr. Often, the most common rhythm used for this type of work is Sleipnir. Sleipnir is the magickal horse of Odin, which is said to have glided between realms upon the web known as Wyrd. This is fitting, considering Sleipnir is often depicted as having eight legs, like a spider. In shamanistic practices, the rhytm of the drum is the Sleipnir: "Sleipnir is like the galloping of the shaman in his journey, the constant sound of his hooves is like the rhythm of the shaman drum, in which he journeys to the other side searching for protection and knowledge, from the spirits and ancestors, sleipnir alludes to move fast, and to everything that escapes the fiscal control, like climbing the world tree of Yggdrasil into other realms, other worlds, the great journey, riding in a altered consciousness." This beating of the drum is used often to help the shamans go into their trances.
Other rhythms can be used as well, so keep that in mind. You want a rhythm that is easy to focus on and one that will help narrow your focus.

**Later, providing I have more time, I will be working on a continuation of this. This does not even cover the beginning of Seidhr, but it takes so much to explain the entire process that I will be breaking it up into sections to work with. I (hopefully) will start writing on what can be done during the Pathwalking: the animal fetch, healing, cursing, traveling the realms/planes, working with spirits and deities under seidhr, necromancy-type workings, divination, possession, etc. **

Again, this is more of an introduction than anything. There's a lot left to cover.

Myths of Northern Lands by H.A. Guerber
Norse Mythology: Great Stories from the Eddas by Hamilton
WightriddenPaths of Northern-Tradition Shamanism by Raven Kaldera
Work from Walter Wright Arthen, Sherry Gamble, Inanna Arthen
Silence by Silence Maestas
The Book of Seidr: The Native English and Northern European Shamanic Tradition by Runic John
Hyge-Crft:Working with the Soul in the Northern Tradition by Diana L. Paxson

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Re: Seidhr Basics
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Thank you! helpful to many. Hard to find info on seid.
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Re: Seidhr Basics
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 3

Thanks :) It's difficult to find accurate info! But the search must go on! I'll start writing more detailed articles soon-ish to help clarify this. It took me years to learn seidhr as in-depth as I have, and even I am no professional with it. Love it to pieces though!

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I adore how you actually address all topics in sequencial order give definitions and do not assume all readers know the same thing, the citing of your sources and quotations is also a very good thing to do, please be sure to continue this topic when you next have the opportunity to as its become a mini fascination of mine now.

tl:dr: awesome work, very informative and easy to read
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Re: Seidhr Basics
By: / Novice
Post # 5
This was wonderful, as is all of your work. I'm very excited for your next post. Keep up the good work! :)
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Re: Seidhr Basics
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 6
Great post! It sounds like you're describing what I do =P
Except I also enjoy folk magick and ritual work, but when there is a serious matter at hand, I go into a trance. I'm always singing, humming or chanting something to myself. It comes naturally tho, nothing premeditated. I try to write them down afterward or tape record them to log them (if I can remember it afterward but usually I can't!) And although a tiger is a great animal spirit friend of mine, my companion during journeys is always a raven. My name makes more sense now eh? Hehe.

I really do need to put more research into seidr, it seems like a very close cousin to what I practice, and I love comparing notes with other cultures. Thank you once again Personified for a terrific read.
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Re: Seidhr Basics
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That's so very similar to this type of work, White! I'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you do so we can compare the two. Shoot me a mail! We have a lot in common. :P

The way you describe your singing and humming and chanting is exactly like how it is done in seidhr. There is nothing premeditated, just whatever inspires you at the moment, completely random and not written down beforehand. Sometimes the impromptu of it can be an amazing experience in and of itself! I tend to think the raw nature of this is very lively for these types of workings. It's beautiful to hear and experience.

I've always found the crow and the owl to be the two animals I travel the most with ( which has always stumped me!). When I'm working with seidhr and I send my fetch, the crow, out to do something it's always exciting to me. I love working with crows, be it on the spiritual level or a physical one. As long as they aren't taking my shiny objects or cawing me to death.

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"I love working with crows, be it on the spiritual level or a physical one. As long as they aren't taking my shiny objects or cawing me to death."

You had me laughing hard at that one!

I love our talks, we will definitely have to compare and contrast our ways. =)

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wow!! great post.. very informative..

thanks for sharing this..

i've been doing a similar practice with this, but just to visit the temple of lemuria by journeying.. when journeying, my spirit companion (a grey wolf) always stays beside me whenever i'm in the temple for rituals.. well, i've been trying to work with these journeyings thou..

blessed be..
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Re: Seidhr Basics
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
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I'm glad to see others practicing similar things! Thanks for reading. :)
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