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pagans dont believe .....
By: / Novice
Post # 1
pagans dont believe in the devil.
Would you say this is a true statement?

I consider my self an eclectic pagan however I have not studied all the pagan religions , but when I think about it I think this statement is true so what do you think?

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Re: pagans dont believe .....
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 2
Paganism is an umbrella term for any religion that is not of the major (most popular) religions of the world (ie: Christianity, Judaism, Islamic, Buddhism, or Hinduism). Some even remove the last two from that list.

When saying "I am a pagan" it is usually referring to "a nature based religion".

Satanism falls into the category of "paganism" which is why many pagans further classify what type of pagan they are or what path they follow. I, for instance, am a "natural pagan" that uses Cherokee medicine with Irish witchcraft. There are many subclasses that help to differentiate the beliefs. Even neo vs classic paganism is a very diverse group.

"Witches" do not believe in the devil, because traditional witchcraft takes from older, usually polytheistic, mythology. I consider those who use Hermetic magick, Gnostic magick, etc. "magicians" or "priests/priestesses" not "witches". I've never seen a user of this area of magick call themselves a "witch".

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Post # 3
Christianity makes paganism look like its all about the devil. Im christian and i believe that paganism isnt bad. actually if you look at it both are close. except the god part. christians will tell you to stay pure to the earth. Most religions can be mixed.
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Re: pagans dont believe .....
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 4
Cherokee medicine AND Irish witchcraft. Sorry, big difference. I don't mix the two in ritual, just in my own personal faith/belief, in ritual, I keep them separate.
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Post # 5
I dont think you can say the entire spectrum of paganism dont believe in the devil or satan cause like the other said, Satanism, and the Luciferian tradition is considered paganism. And Me personally, I'm a Witch so I dont believe in the devil or any other "Ultimate Evil of Sin" or whatever. What most label sin, I call human's primal nature and urges.
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Re: pagans dont believe .....
By: / Beginner
Post # 6
I believe your question has been answered but I want to add some useful things.

Paganism was formed way before Christians in my eyes. So when Paganism was still the top religion in Europe, there was no such thing as the devil. Even in the Bible, the only thing they say about the devil is that he is God's son that went against God. So God threw him into Hell to live, not rule. The Bible never said Pagans believed in the devil or is sided with him. The reason why you hear other people say Paganism is the Devils work is because for one, they don't understand and two they don't want to accept. Of course, way back then Christians were trying their best to get others to join their religion. They used different plans to get others to join. The first one, and is still being used today, is using fear. "If you don't accept Jesus Christ in your life, you'll go to hell." And the second is trying to look good with the public. This includes feeding the homeless and caring for the weak.

What got started with Pagans doing Devil work is because of the fear thing. If, lets say, you lived in a small town and you were different in a way. Everyone accepts you and knows about your difference. Now some people join the town looking all caring and nice. They started to slander your name about your difference is part of the devils ways. Everyone hates you or is scared of you. The only thing you can do now is to change your difference to be like everyone else because you want to be accepted.

But to sum up my answer on "pagans don't believe in the devil." Is no. Pagans back then didn't believe in the devil because there was no such thing. Now a days, it is different because children in the USA are most likely going to be raised as a Christan than Pagan. So when a Christan wants to change ways or want to be part Pagan they might still believe in the devil. It is just a complex answer because so many people have their own ideas and views on the afterlife. All I have is what happened in the past and what caused the lie with witchcraft is devil worshiping.
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Post # 7
I think we should all go to heaven. Unless well deserved not to. like murder for no reason. i could go on but i wont. paradise is for all. But as long as we are sorry for evil things(like murder) and know in our soul what we did was bad. we should be alright.
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Re: pagans dont believe .....
By: / Beginner
Post # 8
Er I won't really say that. Not everyone here accepts Heaven. Some believe in other places in the afterlife.
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Re: pagans dont believe .....
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 9
Irrelevent, that's not paganism sweetie. Traditional pagans don't believe in heaven, hell, or sin, at least not in that way. The heavens are a place for only Divinity. There is no place of fire and brimstone. And we have carnal instincts, not sin or evil, and they're normal. Right or wrong is based off of honor, justice, and balance. That is as specific as I can get to cover nearly all of paganism. I say "nearly" because there is always a few people who may fall into paganism and have other beliefs.
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Re: pagans dont believe .....
By: / Novice
Post # 10
personally, when i started out pagans were more into casting spells and wiccans were more into religion, that was my differentiator. but it's an umbrella term for anything magical. if you mean is paganism evil, no, like magic there is only intent.
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