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Christian witchcraft
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Post # 1
In the past week, I have gotten four messages makeing fun of Christian witches and mocking my coven. Let me share my response to all of them so you can all learn why christians practicing witchcraft isn't so contradictory.?

http://hecatescauldron.org/Key%20of%20Solomon.htm?

I highly recommend you read the whole link. Gerald Gardner, the founder of Wicca plagarised everything from the hermetic order of the golden dawn. He was an inituate himself. Every prayer in the Alexandrian book of shadows is stolen from the key of Solomon. The watchtower system was taken from a branch of high magic known as enochian magic. The ranking system is taking from the Golden dawn. Let me give you an example. In the key of Solomon, you bless salt by saying?

The Blessing of the Father Almighty be upon this Creature of Salt, and let all malignity and hindrance be cast forth hence from, and let all good enter herein, for without Thee man cannot live, wherefore I bless thee and invoke thee, that thou mayest aid me.?

In the Alexandrian book of shadows,?

Blessing be upon this creature of salt, let all malignity and hindrance be cast forth thence from, and let all good enter therein. Wherefore I bless thee and invoke thee, that thou mayest aid me, in the names of Cernunnos and Isis!?

Wicca is nothing more than a paganised varient of Solomonic magic.

In the Alexandrian book of shadows, you bless an athame by saying

?I conjure thee, O Athame, by these names: Abrahach, Abrach, Abracadabra, that thou servest me for a strength and defence in all magical operations against mine enemies, visible and invisible. I conjure thee anew by the Holy Name Isis and the Holy Name Cernunnos, I conjure thee O Athame that thou servest me for a protection in all adversities, so aide me now!

I conjure thee O Athame of steel, by the Great Gods and Gentle Goddesses, by the virtue of the Heavens, of the stars, and of the spirits that preside over them, that thou mayest receive such virtue that I may obtain the end that I desire in all things where I shall use thee, by the power of Isis and Cernunnos!


In the key of Solomon

I conjure thee, O Sword, by these Names, ABRAHACH, ABRACH, ABRACADABRA, YODHE VAU HE, that thou serve me for a strength and defence in all Magical Operations, against all mine Enemies, visible and invisible.

I conjure thee anew by the Holy and Indivisible Name of EL strong and wonderful; by the Name SHADDAI Almighty; and by these Names QADOSCH, QADOSCH, QADOSCH, ADONAI ELOHIM TZABAOTH, EMANUEL, the First and the Last, Wisdom, Way, Life, Truth, Chief, Speech, Word, Splendour, Light, Sun, Fountain, Glory, the Stone of the Wise, Virtue, Shepherd, Priest, Messiach Immortal; by these Names then, and by the other Names, I conjure thee, O Sword, that thou servest me for a Protection in all adversities. Amen.

Re: Christian witchcraft
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 2
Yes, most witches know all that! We know what Gardner based his teachings on, as well the Alexandrian. But, please explain,what has Solomon got to do with Christianity?
We have gone through all this before many times on this site. I will say it once again. Christianity is a belief in Jesus being the divine son of God. Witches do not belief any such thing! So, please get this straight; Christians can, and do, practice magic, That does not make them witches! A witch believes one thing,a Christian believes something entirely different. You simply cannot claim to be a Christian witch. They are opposite beliefs.

Re: Christian witchcraft
By:
Post # 3
"Christianity is a belief in Jesus being the divine son of God. Witches do not belief any such thing!"

WITCHES, being the word used here, are practitioners of magick.
Witches have different paths, religions, and beliefs. Therefore Christian's who is also magickal practitioner can call themselves a witch.

Re: Christian witchcraft
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Post # 4
im a christian witch :).. thanks perry
seems like people are persecuting christian witches today as christian persecuted witches a long time ago. and christian witches are coupled with the old church generation christians.. uhm yea

can we just all agree to disagree? its kind of like politics really and id rather keep learning than trying to prove my faith is valid. I could worship a wet dog, and say that i am a satanic christian,and that my flame of love burns in hell, and you know what. I would be right because it is MY belief, which no one could add to or take away with out MY permission.

and why dont people understand that in just a few short years everything will be understood and REVEALED eventually. faith comes from a word.

@ brysing. didnt you just say on nightshades thread about God that its what you believe that counts and not what others beliefs are???

Re: Christian witchcraft
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 5
Anyone may believe whatever they wish. They may call themselves anything they wish. But it doesn't make it true. A Christian believes in God made Man, a witch doesn't. A rose is still a rose no matter what you call it.

Re: Christian witchcraft
By:
Post # 6
Some here are very outspoken about the impossibility of Christian Wicca or Christian witchcraft. What we are dealing with here is semantics. There are many definitions and understanding of Christian, Wiccan, and Witch. Christians have many denominations and Wiccans have many paths, all with differing beliefs. And not all witches are Wiccans. Variety in belief and developing individual paths are common denominators to Pagan/Wiccan/Witchcraft. The bottom line is that each person has the right to believe as they choose. A person CAN choose to believe in Jesus as God and practice magick or follow any other path that speaks to them. Just because someone says it isn't real doesn't make it so.

Re: Christian witchcraft
By: / Novice
Post # 7
I think the point is, and I was taught this throughout my years at school, that witches are evil in Christianism, so to be a Christian Witch is like saying I'm a vegitarian who eats meat, or in other terms its someone who wants attention.

I won't get in on the debate as I don't really care what people believe or do, just making the point.

Re: Christian witchcraft
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Post # 8
thats where things get messy, is what people were taught. by....some guy..
These same "teachers" sadly, are even still teaching people that in christianity sex is evil. let alone witchcraft.

before i could even consider myself a christian. i had to UNlearn, everything i thought i knew about it because i was TAUGHT WRONG.

serena makes a good point about in believing in what speaks inside of you. if everones faith was the same, and everybody believed what some guy tells them. that would be... well retarted im sorry.

fish is technially meat btw, and vegetarians that eat this meat are call pescetarian. a christian that practices witchcraft is called a christian witch. period.

anyone that believes otherwise should gather the hundreds of thousands of them, stand on a podium. and tell them all theyre wrong...i doubt anything will change. Because on judgement day, or when they meet their creator, they will answer to him only.. not "some guy".

Re: Christian witchcraft
By: / Novice
Post # 9
Revelation 21:8

"But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars?they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.?"

Thats taken from the Bible, not from what some "guy" has said, in my mind you can be one or the other, because to believe in something and drop the bits you don't like is well...retarded.

Re: Christian witchcraft
By:
Post # 10
in your mind, and in your opinion. but the fact is, the bible has been re written and edited a very long time ago. That would mean, that bits and pieces were already taken out and added too. Which ironically the same bible you got that scripture from, says those who do so would be punished..
That scripture also comes fromt he same bible used to justify slavery. In it is a commandment not to kill, yet in other scripture it says there is a time to kill.. does that mean serial killers will go to heaven and witches that use herbs to heal will burn in hell?
jesus walking on water was what satanic?

you sir are not qualified to to judge anyones faith. as you can only quote the bible, because you didnt write it, and if you think all christian witches will burn in hell because of what that scripture says, then In my mind you dont understand what exactly you are reading.

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