Runework: Tradition

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Re: Runework: Tradition
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Very well thought out post, but with how many people have seen it without commenting, i figured I would give some input. I agree with many things in this, as well as disagree. Let's start with the agreements. I agree whole heartedly with the idea that runes have their own life. I agree with your discussion of "life-giving ", and i do agree that runeworking takes time, study, and practice to achieve, just as any other form of work, magickal or non-magickal. But I do not think it is a fair statement to call those who do not abide by Norse tradition in runeworking or crafting to be "foolish " or "disrespectful". Odin gave the Runes to man to be used as they wish, such as affecting wyrd. Repurposing them does fall under those lists of privileges. One of these such uses were written language, the Runes of the Elder Futhark (EF) have been called Anglo-Saxon written language, which would eventually evolve into the English language.
Runeworking as divination is another form of Repurposing, which you did mention in your original post. Divination with runes is a fairly new concept and as far as my knowledge extends, was not actually practiced by the Norse people. You may correct me if I am wrong. However there seems to be no issue with doing so, nor has it ever been called disrespectful.
Many of your claims are valid, but because you see it that way does not mean others do and it can misleading to some for you to say that how they practice is wrong.
I would have given citations but I had to hastily write this on my lunch break at work. Most of this is my opinion and what I can draw from my memory of runic research, and is not to be taken without a grain of salt or as fact. Thank you.
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Re: Runework: Tradition
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Post # 3
Odin gave us a tool to be used in different ways, not to be changed. when we use them in a different way is different from changing what makes them live. the same way you can use a hammer to break bricks, but cant make one out of glass. and runic divination was mentioned, albeit briefly, by tacitus in the agricola and germania.
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Re: Runework: Tradition
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What about one using them in spellwork, or charging their rune set, changes the way they live? The Runes still live as they always have if one "charges" them with some kind of purpose. If you look at the Runes as a living being, then one charging it with whatever energy they wish woukd be like sending out "good vibes" to someone else, not changing what they are but having an effect on what they could do.
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Re: Runework: Tradition
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Post # 5
it changes the way they interact with the world, aye. but not how they live. when a rune is just charged with energy, it has energy, not life and is a sigil, not a rune. the distinction is small, but important.
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Re: Runework: Tradition
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Post # 6
i misread that somewhat and would like to add that the runes are given life after theyve been given form, blood and breath. they dont live as soon as the shape is drawn or carved.

also, id like to add that its refreshing to have this debate with someone who isnt arguing to justify their laziness.
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Re: Runework: Tradition
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Just curious, what is your example of a "life-giving " ceremony /process? When I made my runeset by hand, I adhered to each part of what you have said. Carving it into the wood gave shape, speaking it's name while carving for breath, and for blood I symbolically used a red paint with a high iron content (there was no way I would have enough blood for 24 seperate pieces of wood)
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Re: Runework: Tradition
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Post # 8
well, thats essentially it, lol. the shape is carved, the carving is filled or at least lined with blood, and are given breath by singing their names. thats the cliffnotes version, at least
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Re: Runework: Tradition
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Post # 9
ill go over it in more depth tomorrow when it isnt 2:30 in the morning :P
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Re: Runework: Tradition
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To acknowledge a previous part of the discussion, charging the symbol before "life-giving" would make it, in your words, a sigil. Subsequently, would charging them after the life giving, in your opinion, be considered disrespectful? Because by that point the Runes would have an essence of life, and therefore just be more positively or negatively swayed (for lack of a better term).
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Re: Runework: Tradition
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Post # 11
i meant that charging them instead of life-giving would make it a sigil, rather than a rune. in my opinion, charging it is fine but unnecessary. the breath-giving is done through galdr, which is essentially a spell in and of itself in addition to the symbolism.

i see no issue to adding layers and what not to the work. going back to the hammer analogy, why not add that thing on the other side that pulls out nails? the issue i have is when people take away the fundamental parts.
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