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Magic of Greeks
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It's known that the magic dagger of Crete is similar to the keris magic sword of Indonesia and to Tibetan vajra daggers of healing , the phurba. The reasons are not explained but perhaps history can suggest what happened . I'm hoping to find comments that lead to more lines of inquiry for info.
Greek krios "ram-goat" was also the battering ram used on warships and in towers that rammed into fortress walls in Greece. Crete's dagger , today called a krios, has a handle made from wild-goat horn of kri-kri goats. Keris /kris is Indonesia's dagger which was keris buda , carved on Greco-Buddhist temples in Indonesia. The Cretan dagger protects wives in marriage and the keris is made by a magician who chants a mantra starting "Aum" which represents Shiva and is the start of chants to protect marriage. The medieval Greek magic of Salomon asks for protection by the Almighty.
Greeks ruled north India 2100 years ago and then Greeks used Kharosti script in Kushan kingdoms of 2000 years ago. This script was found in ceramics excavated in Bali Indonesia and was used on gold rings of Kushan style found in Bali and Cambodia from that time.
Evidently , Greek influence reached Indonesia then and probably persisted. Tibetan ritual of Greco-Buddhism also seems to be linked to Greeks ( and to Persian horse-tribes who used tent-pegs to transfix evil forces ). So that's the basic story. What is your view?
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Tibetan phurba dagger is used for healing and Indonesia was a Buddhist Tantraya teaching center 1000 years ago with Ngarampa as a high degree title. Ngurrampaa is an elders' title in east Australia where a waganna ceremony used similar healing magic.
Rev. W. Watson's Journal from Apl 1st to June 30th 1835:
"They have been collected from a distance of many miles in every direction to celebrate WAGANNA ??a dance?? to Baiami a being of considerable note among them. ..The Natives say that when Baiami gave the GUDTHI ??song?? which they now chant to him, he gave them also wooden gods which after the first celebration of the Waganna they burnt. He also commanded them to use small Twigs about 9 inches in length which they were to beat against each other in the Waganna and then to burn them. These Twigs are named Mudth?r from MUDTHIRRA which signifies repeated beating or, thrashing."
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Here are some verbal comparisons to the words in capitals:

waganna.
Wacana
wacana.ui.ac.id/
Wacana is a Journal of the Humanities of Indonesia,
published by Faculty of Humanities, University of Indonesia.
Malay wacan "discourse"

Old Java language : wacana (Sanskrit) "speech, words; sound, voice; teaching".
wacanamagala (Skt) "auspicious (benedictory) words".
Skr. vacana "injunction of a teacher".

The word wacana appears in the mantra for a magician when he makes a keris sword.

gudthi.
Old Java : guuh
aguuhan "making a confused noise, tumultuous, in an uproar".


The Second Dalai Lama: His Life and Teachings - Page 21

https://books.google.com.au/books?isbn=155939949X
Glenn H. Mullin - 2005 -
.. Known as gatha, these traditional verses were not only attributed to the Buddha but also to many of his direct disciples. ... Much of the tantric literature attributed to the Buddha is also expressed in verse, known as vajra gita, or "diamond songs".
The Theragatha (-gth), often translated as Verses of the Elder Monks (Pli: thera elder (masculine) + gatha verse), is a Buddhist scripture, a collection of short poems supposedly recited by early members of the Buddhist sangha.

mudthirra.
mudra "seal or any instrument for sealing or stamping".

"The phurba appear in different rituals concerning divination and healing. In the middle of
these rituals ?the jhankri takes hold of his ritual dagger and start to dance furiously directing
the phurba towards all the places where an evil presence could be lodged. To heal his patient
he vigorously touches the part of the body where he is suffering with the triangular blade of
his wooden knife. This is adorned with snakes - symbols of fecundity and powerful telluric
forces - being fought by an eagle, ally of the divine forces of heaven."_ Kovacs. 2nd article in :
the phurba and a hypothesis on its origins - Le Toit du monde
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