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Healing and curses
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Post # 1
Hi everyone!

I like to check the site member's bios, and I have noticed that many people practice or try to learn healing magic while practicing "dark" magic (such as casting curses or hexes).

Maybe my beliefs are not accurate, but I don't think a curse/hex caster can practice healing magic.

In my opinion, healing is a selfless act, as well as an act of love. In order to succeed and develop your abilities, you must dedicate yourself to this path: never refuse to heal someone if they ask you, even if you dislike them, and do not ask for anything in exchange for a healing. These are my principles when it comes to healing.

On the contrary, cursing or hexing someone is a selfish and mean act.

Magic isn't some sort of restaurant menu, where you can pick anything you want according to your whims. Both ??white?? and ??black?? magic require a certain state of mind and dedication in order to work. Unless you have multiple personalities, you can?t choose to be nice one day, and mean the next one.

Well, again, I may be wrong about it. What do you think?
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Re: Healing and curses
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Post # 2

Lots of people cast "white" and "black" magic, there's not any rules that I'm aware of that say you have to pick one or the other. In fact I would assume one would start with "white" magic before learning something that could harm the caster if it backfired.

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Re: Healing and curses
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Post # 3
To me, magic isn't black or white. It's the energy you put behind it. It's like saying a fork is white or black. In that way, I can see curses and healing magic being capable of being used by the same magician. While I would curse someone, I don't make a habit of it because I find it is a waste of resources to habitually do it.
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Re: Healing and curses
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Post # 4
Precisely. In order to heal or to harm someone, you do not use the same intent. I think these two intents are conflicting each other, preventing the performing of proper healing.

And philosophically speaking, I think it's hard to reconcile the two.

Anyways, I was using the terms "black" and "white" magic to make myself understood, I am aware that magic is neither evil nor good by itself.
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Re: Healing and curses
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Post # 5

@Sayinah

Sorry . but I find myself disagreeing with you a fair bit. No offense to you of course.

In my opinion, healing is a selfless act, as well as an act of love. In order to succeed and develop your abilities, you must dedicate yourself to this path: never refuse to heal someone if they ask you, even if you dislike them, and do not ask for anything in exchange for a healing. These are my principles when it comes to healing.

Well , as you said , these are your principles. Also , Healing , a selfless act and an act of love? What? Do you think doctors in the world all love their patients as well as healing them for selfless reasons? No! They also require compensation! Remove that and there will be virtually no doctors left!

You saying one should never refuse healing to another actually reminds me of the Hippocratic Oath and I find myself leaning in favour towards that statement of yours.

Still , no compensation? You are expending time , effort , energy and sometimes money during the healing. It is a form of labour. I would not ask for anything myself but if one were to do this full time instead of a once-in-a-blue-moon kind of thing , then they sure as heck require it.

Magic isn't some sort of restaurant menu, where you can pick anything you want according to your whims. Both white and black magic require a certain state of mind and dedication in order to work. Unless you have multiple personalities, you cannot choose to be nice one day, and mean the next one.

It is true that what is commonly described as white and black magic require a appopriate state of mind to work.

What you need to keep in mind is that one can love one and hate another. Majority of individuals in this world has someone they cherish and someone they hold disdain for. One can heal the ones that they love and curse the ones that they hate. The magic can therefore be applied to different targets.

Thus individuals can practice both healing and the more destructive forms of magic.

There is an adage that goes along the lines of "Those that cannot curse , cannot heal". Keep in mind that the phrase use the word Cannot , not Will Not.

Also , altered states of consiousness is actually a thing in magical practice.

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Re: Healing and curses
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Post # 6

@Sayinah

In order to heal or to harm someone, you do not use the same intent. I think these two intents are conflicting each other, preventing the performing of proper healing.

The intent are directed to seperate individuals and beings. Thus one do not do healing to those they wish to harm.

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Re: Healing and curses
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Post # 7
If only people really were this simple, but we are not.
You seem to suggest that good people are only good and can do no evil or harm ever, and bad people are only bad and in no way capable of ever doing any good.
Good and bad does contradict each other and so does creation and destruction, however humans are not restricted to such singualar thinking, humans are contradicotry, thats just the nature of things. People change, their state of mind changes nearly daily and they do change from being nice to being mean. However that is a very immature behaviour and a behaviour you often see in younger children to teenagers but then less in adults (although it still happens).
The way you express your point seems like you`re trying to say that humans can only have one personality and one emotion... ever.

Also a lot of people like to learn. Just because they knowledge about hexes and curses doesn`t necessarily mean they actively practise it.
and finally not all healing is done by ?white? magic. There are plenty of techniqies in healing that deals with ?black? magic but its dependent on the intentions.

Surprisingly I do see your point, however your opinion is just worded so simply and have not taken into consideration that humams are humans. If we were capable of only one state of mind, then we will be Gods whether it be good or evil.
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Re: Healing and curses
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Post # 8
Sorry, I stated my opinion in a simple way because english is not my native language, so I try to express myself clearly :)

I myself struggle everyday with anxiety, anguish, anger, pain, etc. That doesn't mean I will curse anyone for it, because as you said, it is completely immature (and cowardly, I think).

Now, I am aware that doctors do not work for free, and that they do not blindly love everyone because they are doctors.

But the way I see my healing magic, and the reason I can heal people successfully I think, is that I call upon the power of my love. And asking for money or any compensation would ruin that love that fuels my magic.
Anyways, I do not heal professionally, I only help my family and friends, and only a few of them know that I have this gift.

I admit that I never considered any other way to heal someone than mine (I never met anyone that practices magic either, so it's understandable).
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Re: Healing and curses
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Post # 9
Okay where to begin where to begin. I mean no offense in this but you have a very childish view of things...Or you operate in a near impossible state of black and white. Intent is the major influence of practice. If I have the intent to harm or heal I can take that intent and use it to cast a spell or perform a ritual.however if I am feeling selfless,mad,etc that does nothing. Curses are not selfish as much as healing isn't selfless. I think a major problem with people now a days is this overly sensitive love and light nonsense. If I am angry at someone for wronging me and curse them that has no affects on my ability to heal. There is a balance of life and death and in order to work with life you should also understand and
Work with death. This creates a well rounded person. Just because I work with curses doesn't mean I go around cursing everyone and anyone believing that is an idiot to be blunt. I would even argue its BEST for someone to
Study curses and healing at the same time. That contrast will help give you a much better understanding of both. But this "harm none" "love and light" "dark magic is wrong" bs must really end because it takes away from and quite frankly insults practitioners who work with both sides.
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Re: Healing and curses
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Post # 10
all magick comes from neutral energy, it is the intent of the caster which gives it a positive or negative charge, so one can practice both healing and cursing.

see, people aren't always good or evil, same with magick, so sometimes they may choose to act in a way they wouldn't ordinarily. regarding curses, sure, you may consider it evil, but what if you were cursing a child molester or murderer in an attempt to make them pay for their crimes. is a curse still evil and selfish? and while healings are helpful, what if the person you are trying to heal doesn't want your help, or, what if the person who comes to you for a healing is a murderer? is that still considered good? once you scratch the surface you'll find a lot of grey areas and moral dilemmas with magick.

personally i study all types of magick, but i rarely cast, since most of the time the universe has a way of working itself out, so i usually only cast in emergencies. but, regarding people who claim they heal and curse, i feel 99% of the time they're new to the path and just do what they feel is cool. nothing wrong with that, but if you spoke to the person in a few years, it's very likely their expertise has shifted.
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