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MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
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Post # 1
To begin with, there must be some basic understanding of energy. Energy is what moves the universe through time. It is what causes all things. Now there are the usual types of energy you learn about in school, (mechanical, solar, electrical, magnetic, etc.). Yet there are other types of energy that science doesn?t explain nor does it discuss or even admit to its existence though it is clearly evident if one pays attention to the bizarre. These are what I call, bondable, or creative, energies. When I say creative, I mean as in the forces that created the universe and the energy that connects things together and produces gravity. Magic, Chakra, Aura, whatever you want to call it, manipulates things both through this ?creative? energy. But the ones that take a lot of energy can have the energy consumption reduced through a ritual and the premise of the association of things (which is having a profound belief that any two things are connected).
An example of this is that if you . . . took a piece of glass for instance, say, from a broken beer bottle. Now, though the bottle had broken, the glass shards wouldn?t become glass. The beer bottle, like everything else, has a sort of energy signature you could say, and because of this, the piece of beer bottle you have is still a part of the original beer bottle. So then if you know how (which will be covered later), it?s, ?signature?, could be traced back to the original piece. Thus the concept of a beer bottle can be used to apply energy to something on a small scale, and then have it occur on a large scale.
Now, there are beings outside of our universe, our perception of reality. This is a well-known fact. These beings, like everything else, have energy. The reason they are always perceived as gods and goddesses is that they have figured out how to send their energy into this universe to affect things. And because of energy constantly coming into the universe, you get a sort of current. Animals and plants can feel this current, but because of humanities complex mind, we have sought out where this energy begins, to find its source. We have done this through prayer, meditation, astral projection, etc.. These attempts, which are still going on today, are sending back energy which ends up with you having very sensitive, two way channels of energy running through and out of this universe. That so many outside and inside this universe are transmitting and because of individuals? auras (vibrating frequency unique to each person or being), there is no known number of specific currents.
Over time, given a strong enough connection, a being can use energy to manifest a body (which can be made of light, matter, or even in your subconscious or conscious self) with either their whole or part of their spirit which when encountered, causes them to be known. Even though Godden (commonly known as God) is the supreme ?god-goddess? outside this universe, the gods of mythologies around the world (including Egypt, Rome, Greece, India, Aztec, and Druid to name a few) are real and facets of them have been captured as myths, legends, stories, and fables.
Now a prayer to whom or whatever won?t necessarily be answered by the specific being you prayed to. If it is answered it might be by something completely unexpected or comprehendible. An answered prayer can be described as an ?astral neon sign? tuned to the right frequency (by frequency I mean purpose, desire, and intent of the prayer) to catch a being or beings attention who then acted upon the ?astral sign? and thus it was done.
Now a summoning done correctly will ?catch and/or pull? the attention of that specific being or state (state is the only word I can use to describe something that has no conscious), so out of curiosity or being forced to, it comes to you and may or may not manifest itself as something, depending on its or your desires.
Now you can also just ?snag and scoop? energy without a being ending up involved.
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
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Post # 2
and?
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 3
Gods, goddesses, spirits, angels, demons, etc. are not exactly an established fact. People believe in them. They believe they make contact with them. Incidents occur that people can't explain, and these incidents are attributed to them. None of this makes them fact.

Even within the various metaphysical communities the nature of such things is quite debated. Are they external forces? Are they manifestations of the subconscious? Are they aliens (I can't say this without picturing the guy from the history channel, and it makes me laugh)? Are they consciousnesses from other planes of existence/dimensions? So on, so forth, the various possibilities go on and on.

More established by far, however, is that such entities do not manifest in the flesh. Even in ancient Greece, Rome, Egypt, Japan, India, etc. scholars, mystics, and priests frequently agreed on this matter aside from the various concepts regarding the divinity of rulers; which, for that matter, was generally only an excuse for rule.

Time, focus, will, etc. generally do not impact this. They do not alter the law of physics. Beyond this, energy is infinite (or close enough for most people's ability to comprehend), so being a god, spirit, etc. does not allow one more access to energy. Arguably, it just provides such entities with more awareness of it.

But that leads down another rabbit hole.

The bottom line is that spiritual energy does not translate directly into physical energy, or matter. This is debatable. People will contest it. And, honestly, there is always that one inexplicable situation that casts doubt on this. But, as a rule, it's not possible.
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
By: / Novice
Post # 4
I find this post very scattered and misleading.

Interesting subject though.

Though this is what you believe, you're going to have people (who don't believe in gods/goddesses tell you how energy works through a more scientific way.)

Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it is simply transferred. "An example of this is that if you . . . took a piece of glass for instance, say, from a broken beer bottle. Now, though the bottle had broken, the glass shards wouldn?t become glass." Though the bottle had been shattered, it may no longer be a bottle (since its purpose is now destroyed) its still glass.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "given a strong enough energy, a being can use energy to manifest a body." There are artificial entities you can create, thought forms even, but the energy used for this cannot be created. But the energy taken from somewhere else, the elements, or your own personal energy.

The last paragraph you wrote is also misleading, as you say one thing, and then another. "a being that may not have a conscious, but is curious or being forced." If it has no conscious or thought pattern, it cant be curious or being forced against its will, it wouldn't have a "will."

I suggest you do some reading about energy and how it works.
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 5
Well said Tethaia.
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
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Post # 6
Energy is known to be unlimited. but the man body can only channel so much. Thus, a greater being, not trapped within a physical body can channel more energy.
something that has no conscious), so out of curiosity or being forced to
what this means is a general reference to the two types of beings one can find but the second bit did not apply to both types.
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
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Post # 7
Unlimited? We have no limits when it comes to using energy. Food gives us its energy so that we may have energy to live, and function in daily life. Water gives us its nutrients and energy so that we may stay hydrated to be functional. We may use the elements' energy to meditate and cast out our workings. But energy itself is not quite "unlimited." It cannot be created. Only transferred, as I last stated.

And this "non-conscious" thing your talking about, are you speaking of things that have patterns, but just exist, with out "free will?" It can't be "curious" if it has no "free will."

And because these deities and astral beings have no physical form, it doesn't allow them to have more access to channel energy as AwakeTooLong mentioned earlier. Honestly (and this is my personal opinion) we humans are in a body that can feel physically, project physical sensations, and have access to physical energy. Where as the deities, out of a physical form, cannot. And still, as humans, we also have to luxury of experiences emotional and spiritual energies as well. We are able to experience others energies, the world's energy, as well as the astral. We are able to transfer it, physically, spiritually, and emotionally.

Sure the astral can be what they are, and possibly more, we will never know for sure. But energy, regardless, will always be the same amount, only transferred.

So what are the two types you're describing? The non-conscious and conscious?

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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
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Post # 8
unlimited energy means there is an unlimited amount of energy one can transfer from the universe to one's self.

"non-conscious" thing your talking about, are you speaking of things that have patterns, but just exist, with out "free will?" It can't be "curious" if it has no "free will."

yes that is what i was refering to. and i thought i had just explained that i was stating two types of entities and the part of curious doesn't apply.
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
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Post # 9
And because these deities and astral beings have no physical form, it doesn't allow them to have more access to channel energy as AwakeTooLong mentioned earlier. Honestly (and this is my personal opinion) we humans are in a body that can feel physically, project physical sensations, and have access to physical energy. Where as the deities, out of a physical form, cannot. And still, as humans, we also have to luxury of experiences emotional and spiritual energies as well. We are able to experience others energies, the world's energy, as well as the astral. We are able to transfer it, physically, spiritually, and emotionally.'
well said. and yes i am descring both non concious and concious. but humans can only channel so much energy within themselves before they combust.
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Re: MyBeleifsWhatDoYouThink
By: / Novice
Post # 10
You're still being a bit misleading.
You're saying that "unlimited energy means an unlimited about of energy one can transfer to them selves, but there's only so much a human can handle."
So which is it you're trying to explain? that humans can only channel a certain amount of energy? Or that they can channel as much as they want?
I do believe that when one is experiencing too much energy, they must ground what is excess. I've even experienced this many times in circle. This is the reason for grounding. But I also believe this varies from person to person. An example being : one can handle more pain in their back than another. One can handle 100 degree weather than another, highly stressful situations, etc.

However, I think I can slightly understand what you're attempting to explain here, but because this comes off as a bit confusing, I cant say whether I'm with you on this.

By any means, I'm not picking on you, or telling you that you're wrong. Only simply trying to understand what it is you're trying to say. A slight suggestion when making your next thread, take a few minutes to put in perspective the true point you're wanting to make, and then giving some reasonable facts to back it up. This should make your post more comprehendible for others.



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