The words Wicca and witch
Re: The words Wicca and witch
By: Dagyde.
Post # 2
Aug 02, 2015
Being pedantic, magissa would probably be a Latinised version of the Persian magos or magi , and I haven't seen it used as a term for those who practiced magic in Ancient Greece.
Greek terms for sorcerers are (Male/Female) epodoi/epaoidoi (incantations, chanting, kind of like a Greek form of Galdr), goetes/goetides (calling up spirits) and pharmakeis/pharmakides (those who knew the properties of plants). There was possibly a distinction between the practices originally, but by around the 5th and 4th centuries BCE these terms were used to describe anyone who practiced any kind of magic.
On a side note, necromancy ( nekuomanteia ) was considered to be a specialised form of divination and wasn't really associated magic, thus missing out the more shady associations with sorcery.
Re: The words Wicca and witch
By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 3
Aug 02, 2015
Well, Hoodoo Boy, you seem to have read a lot; and learnt nothing!
Re: The words Wicca and witch
By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 4
Aug 02, 2015
Wicca was not started in 1954. More like 1924! And it is based on much older traditions and beliefs. Gardner chose the word Wicca purely as a title, trying to get old the beliefs recognised by the British Government as a religion. Gardner was English; and so "coined" the title from the Old English "wiccacreft", male worker.
(Wiccecreft, female worker.)
Re: The words Wicca and witch
By: HoodooBoy
Post # 5
Aug 05, 2015
Still wicca goes no father back then the 20th century and is in fact not the old religion!
Re: The words Wicca and witch
By: HoodooBoy
Post # 6
Aug 05, 2015
and to call oneself a witch is in fact to link themselves to a word that has not one good connotation,also the Old English word Wicca means to bend, not wise one unlike what gardner claimed!
Re: The words Wicca and witch
By: .StarPower. / Novice
Post # 7
Aug 05, 2015
That's wicker, not Wicca.
Re: The words Wicca and witch
By: .StarPower. / Novice
Post # 8
Aug 05, 2015
You might find this interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Wicca
Re: The words Wicca and witch
By: Hadit31
Post # 9
Aug 05, 2015
That's if you believe in the New Forest coven and Gardner's
initiation, I personally do not and if you read the wikipedia article you may see why.
I can see most elements of Wicca which are public in the Western Mystery Tradition. Gardner flitted from one magical group to another, whilst I challenge Cecil Williamson on some things, his account of the creation of Wicca is most enlightening.
Re: The words Wicca and witch
By: Magical1 / Beginner
Post # 10
Aug 05, 2015
Wow! You know your stuff about witch's and wiccans don't you?
Re: The words Wicca and witch
By: Voo.
Post # 11
Aug 06, 2015
Who? All HoodooBoy did was link an article on the subject. They copied and pasted the article from a site, whose essays are probably poorly researched. For instance, placing ATR's under the term "Mesopaganism." Confusing hoodoo for Voodoo and Vodou, calling it all superstition, and looks like a nice hint of racism added for good measure.
Can I again state the irony of the name "HoodooBoy"?
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