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Resurection and time
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Post # 1
Hello all, i've been thinking about this topic for a while and I would like to know if anyone has resources on this. I believe that science and magick are one and the same. Magick is simply a few steps ahead.

With this thought in mind, I know we all have regrets. It's human, I have them, you have them, we all have them and there is no use denying it. Now i'm told time and time again to move past my regrets but out of arguments sake humor me here.

In the theory (and soon to be well recognised fact) of parallel realities it is stated that for every decision ever made and every possibility that can be imagined exists, with this in mind I correlated with the basis of quantum mechanics which states that, again, 'theoretically' waves can pass through said realities. This is from what science can tell me.

Now my theory is that time travel is existent for said reasons. I was hoping we could all constructively think of a spell or ritual in which we could invoke the right energy to pass our mind and soul (wave signatures, conciousness) to a vessel in said alternate plane of existence. Not only that but if we were to pinpoint which universe we wish to go to, or more or less, which alterations we'd like made, we could invoke them no?

For example, lets say someone I loved died. In a parallel reality it exists they aren't dead and in full health. I want to be able to invoke said ritual and transfer my mind and soul in wave form across the universes to that reality in the time in which I choose and continue living as if nothing happened.

Any ideas anyone? I remember reading a few articles in relation to a servitor of time that had similar abilities over the augmentation of time. Any ideas?
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Re: Resurection and time
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 2
Magic is akin to Science; yes, that's true. But everything else you have written is "belief".
You may believe anything you wish; but a belief does not necessarily mean it's true!
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Re: Resurection and time
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Post # 3

I am agree withBrysing"You may believe anything you wish; but a belief does not necessarily mean it's true!"

This "parallel reality" sounds for me...an illusion.However you can believe what you want but don't transform your belief in a fact.A belief is just a belief.

And you can't transfer your mind and soul across the universe and especially go into another time,planet etc.Is just fantasy !

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Re: Resurection and time
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Post # 4
I've got to say that both of you are wrong. Nothing is impossible. The basis of our reality is built on that FACT.

You two sound like you sip on the haterade a little too much. After all, belief and fact are two sides of the same coin.
It was once FACT that god existed, once FACT that the earth was flat, once FACT that the world was the center of the universe.

So to your saying that this is fantasy I say you're too closed minded. The first rule of alchemy is equivalent exchange. Therefore in a theoretical situation this is possible with the right procedure and price paid.

At the end of the day science and magick are the same. You never get it right the first time and there is no magickal mold that fits all to explain everything. It's all best guess and using our collective minds to test for a solution. That's why i'm asking for help here...

Or are there no true witches on here? Only pretenders that wish to say that there is a limit to our limitless potential?
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Re: Resurection and time
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Post # 5
So to my original point, if anyone has had any luck with this, I had the theory of invoking the help of Astaroth for his help in divining the resonance needed.
As well, I did quite a bit of reading on ancient texts and the power of the written word, with that in mind, has anyone had any luck summoning Agares to teach the ancient invocation texts? Like Sumerian for example. Perhaps anyone has insight on a text with a higher success rate in spell casting? I find english doesnt have the right resonance.
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Re: Resurection and time
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 6

There are many, many things that are impossible. You may believe otherwise but that does not change the natural laws of physics or the cosmos just because you wish it were so. And any "true" witch would tell you the same. Suggesting that there are no "true witches" on this board because others do not agree with you is as close-minded as what you accuse others of being.

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Re: Resurection and time
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Post # 7

I've got to say that both of you are wrong. Nothing is impossible. The basis of our reality is built on that FACT. You two sound like you sip on the haterade a little too much. After all, belief and fact are two sides of the same coin. It was once FACT that god existed, once FACT that the earth was flat, once FACT that the world was the center of the universe.

No, those were never facts. They were perceived as being facts through an often religious mindset, but since the definition of "fact' is "something that has really occurred or is actually the case" and the world was never the flat center of the universe, neither of those were facts. Since the West shifted paradigms from one of Church-oriented faith to science-oriented skepticism we've also expanded the definition of a fact to include that it must be demonstrable - that is, it is not considered a fact until you can demonstrate that it is true through repeated experiments.

So we'll call your parallel universe a fact once you can demonstrate that it is, indeed, a fact.

I highly suggest taking a look at Crowley's theorems of magick because he follows a scientific logic and explains why different magical acts are and are not possible and why a spell succeeds or fails.

http://hermetic.com/crowley/book-4/defs.html

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Re: Resurection and time
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 8
There are many "beliefs" that are stated as fact! Humans do it all the time! But this tries to be a serious site, for real knowledge.
Almost anybody you ask will say that the Sun rises in the East, and sets in West. It doesn't!
And because this site is really trying to be serious, and to tell the truth, the Mods will say so!
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Re: Resurection and time
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Post # 9
The very nature of magick and science is to perceive and create possibility in what is previously thought impossible.

To you Lark, I think you are honestly wrong. We do not fully know the natural laws of physics in it's whole, nor do we even have the slightest idea of the cosmos. So how can we claim that a task is impossible if we do not know every avenue? If we do not know every path? If you think keeping an open mind to the endless possibilities of the universe is being close minded then so be it by the great horned god i'm a closed minded individual.

The very basis of your argument is invalid in my opinion.
Now to you SunYote, ALL facts are perceived facts that are then backed by some proof or another, the credibility of these facts are left to the reader to distinguish and believe one way or another. Everything, down to the unit of measurements we use in our day to day lives are all considered fact, but have you ever considered that even that has been evolving? Even today the very definitions of what you consider 'fact' changes and have changed. Take the evolution of the true measurement of the pound, the gram. The very definition of said 'facts' change. Because they are all perception.

For some evidence go ahead and look for yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gram

And let me get this straight, you are following the theory of Crowley because he follows a "scientific logic"? I'll follow modern quantum mechanics and modern physics. Not dated knowledge.

Here, for anyone interested, since the crowley THEORIES are now being held as credible to a degree, why not an article for size?

http://phys.org/news/2014-10-parallel-worlds-collide-quantum-mechanics.html
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Re: Resurection and time
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 10
Versinojos.What on Earth makes you think that I, for one, "follow Crowley"? And you then quote wikipedia.Oh,dear!
Your profile doesn't give your age, but I should think you are very young. For a start, you have no idea what magic is. You certainly don't understand quantum mechanics.
You are writing ridiculous nonsense!
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