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Transgender preacher
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Im confused on that topic. If a transgender person wanted to be a high priest or priestess would that person act as their assigned gender, their gender identity, or would they not even be allowed to, although that would really be prejudice. I dont know a trans person who want one of those occupations but i know who is a wiccan, and thats how that possible situation came to me. I was just wondering. By the way, has this situation ever come up?
I have nothing against trans people so if you're one and see them dont think im insulting you.
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Re: Transgender preacher
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Post # 2
Sorry about my typos
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Re: Transgender preacher
By: / Novice
Post # 3
Gender is actually a societal construct. Sure, biologists can divide most species into male and female due to the structure of the body, but gender is a cultural thing. Before colonialism, many Native American tribes recognized up to seven genders. There's a tribe in Sumatra, Indonesia that recognizes five. Now, most modern-day post-globalization people can only conceive of those genders as combinations or variants of two.

With Wicca (correct me if I'm wrong) the gender binary essentialism is a cornerstone of the fertility-based religion. (Although Christopher Penczak among others has written about Wicca's empowerment of gay and queer people, unlike some world religions that condemn anything outside the gender binary.)

Going back to the Bissu of Sumatra, to be transgender isn't only "something that has come up" but seems to be a requirement to becoming a spiritual authority. In the Western world, I can only think of the Greek legend of Tiresias who became a spiritual consultant after being "cursed" with a gender swap (and blindness, I think--? Blind seers were an irony that Greek dramatists just loved,) and of Odin learning seithwork (in a culture during a time that, to my knowledge, actively forbade men from learning that craft.)
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Re: Transgender preacher
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Post # 4
You kinda dodged the question
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Re: Transgender preacher
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Post # 5
Aeon was only giving you information and history of the subject (i assume) to help you find your own answers.

Sexuality and gender roles arent limited to non-wiccan societies. I believe the choice to be a priest or priestess is up to the discretion of the coven the transgender/sexual. Personally, nature comes in all shapes, sizes, genders and "blurred" genders. So why would the practice of magic and roles be limited...nature itself isnt.

Like Aeon said, gender roles is society thing...

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Re: Transgender preacher
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 6

There is no overall single answer to the question. Wiccan covens are autonomous, so how a coven views the place of transgender within the coven is entirely up to that one group. I know some covens who would treat the individual according to their gender of choice and others who would insist on treating them by their birth gender.

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Re: Transgender preacher
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Post # 7
Since I'm assigned female but I'm male, I would not be a priestess or any position for women.
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Re: Transgender preacher
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 8

I've been described to that each of us have the divine masculine and divine feminine energies within, so the physically recognized gender doesn't matter as much. I can't speak from a traditional viewpoint, however, but the issues that involve transgendered folk in Wicca are not new.

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Re: Transgender preacher
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Post # 9
It depends. If you're solitary it doesn't matter. If you're in a coven, bring it up with them. Some go with the chosen gender, others birth gender, and some go with gender until you have the full surgery because physically you would be male or female. It really depends. Personally it's what you identify as. I have a female covenmate who was acting priest for about a year because she was a good leader and we joking said she had more masculine energy than any of our male members. I feel the key is connection more than actual gender, but different covens different rules.
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Re: Transgender preacher
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Post # 10
It really doesnt matter its just a label.
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