i am christian and fallow magic as a path, or practice, not as a religion or belong to a religion that "supports" magic. i bilive that this doesn't hinder my ability or views on magic or any other religions that are close niched to magic. but i do wonder what thoughts others have on a christian, just a christian, using magic, and if it is ethical or not. also, i was born to buddhism, weather this affects me or not i'm not much caring at this point in my life.
any way, what are your thoughts on magic v.s. other religions that don't support or even disagree with magic.
Re: Religion vs magic
By: Veneficium14 May 13, 2014
Post # 2
I am roman catholic and have been practising successfully for 4-5 years now... now in the eyes of the roman catholic church I should be burned in the fiery depths of hell for my practise, but in the eyes of my own beliefs and the beliefs of my friends and but particularly my family are scripture based, meaning its the message or the moral of the story that really counts, and I do most definitely adapt the basic Christian values to my everyday life as well as my craft! The other way I justify my practise alongside my religion is that I believe the bible, is poorly translated and at the end of the day if your a good person and you have faith of some sort you'll be fine! Live and Let Live and Blessed Be!
Re: Religion vs magic
By: Chyina / Beginner May 13, 2014
Post # 3
Coming from a strong Christian background (though I no longer consider myself Christian), I will answer this from my perspective of what I feel today.
Simply put, if God is a just god, as the Bible claims then he will honor all walks of life that have adhered to Christ's basic philosophy (which is also the same teachings in nearly all religions). That is, love for all, acceptances of everyone, and to do no harm. I believe that if the Christian God exists as Christ taught, then he will welcome those who have tried lived a good and just life.
After all, the Bible even says that every man must find his own path to salvation. :)
Personally, I believe that Magick is a natural phenomona that every person can take part in. Physics states that for every action there is a equal and opposite reaction, and that's true for metaphysical and supernatural things too. so if Science and logic is the "Action", then Magick and faith is the "equal and opposite 'reaction'".
Religiously I am a Hellenistic Pagan witch, and I believe in sevral (mostly Greek) Gods and Goddesses, and use magick religiously, and recreationally.
Christians doing magic is normal. It's actually written about quite prolifically in the book if you read it. And miracles after all are just a fancy way of saying God magic. The only magic which is frowned about in the Bible is "black magic" (which is a broad term eh? And no clear cut definition) and necromancy (which gives rise to the question about communion with saints).
Just about every religion if you read their books is okay with God-centric magic so long as it doesn't harm others. People really need to read their books before they start quoting from them.
I feel that if you are a 'true' christian, then you wouldn't consider magick to be acceptable.
Real story, I saw a book recently about Christian Magick and sharted out laughing. It's an oxymoron.
"And thou shall cast a circle, and call upon the spirits for your personal needs and wishes" The Book of Lol 45:16-98
Cus like it says somewhere in the Bible (tl;dr) not to worship anyone but him right? So in a sense you'd be cheating on him working with other spirits(?).
The way I see it, is that magick isn't a religion at all, there are no 'set ways' in one book that everyone can follow. What works for some people might now work for others, which is why people will say it's an individual's own journey for and of their own self. The fact of the matter is, if you feel what's working for you spiritually is acceptable- then it is, though there is so much more you can spiritually accomplish if you focus solely on magick.
Please note- I've never been with a religion or taken part in any religious activities in my life- so if I got anything skewed don't bombard me with 'facts' and stuff plox
I'm just going off of what I do know.
Re: Religion vs magic
By: Wiccadoll2 / Novice May 13, 2014
Post # 10
Most christian witches find it easier to coexist apart from organized religion. The bible is the lazy mans way of spreading the word of god. Lol. The stories of the old testament are just that. Stories. When jesus died for our sins it washed away sin from all of mankind.