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Re: Initiate my reincarnation
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Your trying to do this without astral projection and this is something that requires a lot of skill in general. I'll tell you what you can do but I can't promise anything. I'll give you what I can and i'll keep it as simple as possible.

First I suggest you become adept at astral projection, evocation, and magick and energy use in general (and maybe lucid dreaming, I'll explain why).

Start with splitting your soul. To keep them as 1 and practically the same soul. Enter meditation and divide your consciousness but have a silver cord between the two souls (usually described as what connects the soul and the body together in most astral projection teachings). Be able to switch between the two consciouses and also exist in both at the same time to also keep them seperate (hard thing to do).

Now i'll explain the lucid dreaming first. In order to be able to keep the memories with as much perfection as possible it's best to practice, the most efficient way is through a method of conciouse lucid dreaming where you fall asleep and go through the night consciously in your dreams. It's basically the same concept with reincarnation but it's much harder for it is to be done on downloading everything onto a new undeveloped brain and it has to be done for longer. Study it before you try it for there are a few things you would need to understand first like the stages of sleep. This is a skill that takes years to master so i'll give you an easier but way less effective technique.

You should make a charm (best you do this yourself) of stones and crystals that radiate well with you. You need it to hold a conscious for a long time. Enchant it with not just intentions but with your whole self and attach your spirit to it (a spirit can be attached to multiple things so you can attached your own spirit to it and because both of your spirits are connected your essentially attaching both at the same time). Give it to the child on his/her first birthday and that he/she shall hold onto it for life until it must be passed on. If it is to be passed on, your predecessor must enchant it again to strengthen it. I recommend you try this and the lucid dreaming method for the best chance.


Now you must meet with the mother when she is pregnant (father can be there too for support. You could also do a similar ritual with both parents before she is pregnant and do this one when she is to help you control the gender and features of the child) and you must pass your soul on. Draw the soul into the unborn child and you can use evocation methods to summon your own soul into the baby. One thing that can help is that there is a minot chakra at the base of your skull behind your head. Draw energy from there and send it through your right hand into the baby with you intention.

I advise you price together the holes I left yourself for this is quite a hard thing to do but I wish you luck and can't wait to hear about your results.

Re: Initiate my reincarnation
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 7
The idea that humans "come back" as other humans is a belief. A very strong belief, that there must be "something" after death. It is born of fear; fear of "extinction".
We are Matter, and Matter cannot be destroyed, only changed. When the body dies, whether buried or cremated, the body "goes to earth".It then feeds the plants, the plants feed the animals, and the body "lives" again, in a different form. It is the everlasting Cycle of Life. Because all the animals,birds, incests, also die and feed the plants. And so it goes on, forever; or at least so long as the Planet lasts.

Re: Initiate my reincarnation
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 8
Sorry, INSECTS!

Re: Initiate my reincarnation
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 9
By the way! When I say "cremated" I mean when the ashes are scattered on the Earth; not kept in those "sentimental" caskets!

Re: Initiate my reincarnation
By: / Novice
Post # 10
Brysing, calling everyone insects who doesn't subscribe to your world view seems a bit harsh, don't you think?

As for what you were saying about, matter, decay, the circle of life, etc.. While that is true, how do you explain the phenomenon of astral projection, hauntings, etc..?
(and yes I know these things have yet to be "conclusively" proven by science, although there have been experiments done that seem to indicate that we should at least keep our minds open to such ideas before outright dismissing them.)

With all that said, I would like to say that by defending the idea of "something" happening after death, I am not defending the OP, as I find her idea to manipulate the soul of a small child abhorrent to say the least.

Re: Initiate my reincarnation
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Post # 11
When did I call anybody an insect! I said that insects feed on the plants "fed" by the decomposing bodies.Not the same thing at all!
And, of course, you may believe anything you wish. But a belief does not make it true!

Re: Initiate my reincarnation
By: / Novice
Post # 12
My apologies, I misinterpreted one of your posts.

As for the latter, no one really knows what happens to your consciousness after you die.

it's probably one of the greatest mysteries ever to face mankind, because it boils down to the question of whether consciousness exists inside of outside of the mind.

I could get into that more, although if I did, we would probably be debating this for hours, and honestly, my friend, I need to get some sleep.

So yes I do have some assumptions that I believe to be plausible.
Although, I am an open minded fellow, and if there were more scientific studies on the phenomenon of consciousness, that could conclusively disprove what I am saying, I would happily change my position.

From a logical standpoint agnosticism makes the most sense, because we cannot truly know, at least not at this point.

And although I do not claim to be a true agnostic since I do have some ideas, (call them educated guesses) about life and death, in the end neither you, nor my self will truly "Know" until we perish, and as you said, "Become one with the earth" (I Paraphrased that last quote a little, but you get the jest).

And with that, Cheers, and good tidings. :)

Re: Initiate my reincarnation
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 13
When we "perish" we will know nothing. We only "know" when we are alive.

Re: Initiate my reincarnation
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 14

This "idea" is completely unrealistic and is not even worthy of being discussed intellectual or philosophically. Your astral body can not be severed from your physical body until the death of the physical body. One can not leave their current physical body in a vegetative state and enter a new physical body. Not to mention the astral body of the other physical body will be inside or attached to the physical one even at the moment of conception.

The author of the original post even admits this is concept is impossible however wants intelligent people to "form an intellectual and potentially philosophical discussion".

Why would anyone want to waste what precious time they have for study and practice on a concept that is so ridiculous. This site is not a debate site or for impossible magical theory discussion. This site is for learning actual practice not fluff such as this.


Re: Initiate my reincarnation
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