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Ouija experience
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Post # 1
Here lately I've been working with a friend who is interested in magick who hasn't fully developed his abilities regarding scrying and evocation. It has been a long time since my dabbling days and a very long time since I used a Ouija board.

From what I remembered back when I used one back in the day I really got nothing from it but what seemed to be gibberish. Well since we have been using the board I have been recording all of the results and the results are beginning to surprise me. This dabbling device now to the trained eye, in all of it's gibberish is actually revealing Enns for spirits, it's revealing names of spirits that seem to come from the Abramelin Hierarchy and to my surprise the once thought to be gibberish is actually words from different languages or dead words from our language.

I really wish I kept a journal of my experiences with this device back in the day and really looked into what I was being told without discarding it as gibberish.

Back to the Abramelin Hierarchy, I find it interesting that these once thought to be gibberish names coming through actually have ties to the spirits listed in The Book of Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage. The spirits that do come through who are listed in this book do imply that the Hierarchy is wrong and for the most part they are not demons in anyway. A spirit that I talked to by the name of Adon identified himself as an elemental. He seemed to be a really friendly familiar spirit and was full of information regarding the nature of salamanders. On top of this he revealed his enn and asked if we could evoke him and give him an offering of wormwood and wine.

Either way I'm surprised no one has really experimented with these spirits or for that matter even worked with them. I believe a lot of them can be helpful but one would seriously have to tread safely because this book doesn't accurately describe their true nature or intentions.
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Re: Ouija experience
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Post # 2
*sorry for the typos* I've deleted it 3 times and found yet another.
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Re: Ouija experience
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Post # 3
is this a grimoire you were working with before, or do you feel you have been guided to it?

I think those results are amazing. Congrats!
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Re: Ouija experience
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It's an actual grimoire that I own. I bought it for the information regarding the magical squares within it and discarded it until this started popping up.
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Re: Ouija experience
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Post # 5
I find it interesting too that they would not call themselves demons. could they mean in the sense of what the connotations of what are currently called demons? it is just a name.

the angel Jazar is called a djinn in some grimoires but in others an angel. that sort of thing.

nevertheless, those are really interesting results.
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Re: Ouija experience
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Post # 6
I was kind of skeptical as to what the spirit or demon was telling you as well and the fact that it specificaly disregarded a particular book you use, and then asked you to summon it. How do you know it isnt lying? Anyway, great post.
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Re: Ouija experience
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Post # 7
Actually it isn't a book that I practice with but it's interesting that these beings have similar or dead on names that are within that book. I'm not afraid to evoke any spirit, I have been practicing evocation for a long time now and most likely he has something he would like to share with me that can only be obtained through the process of evocation.
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Re: Ouija experience
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Post # 8
Spirits are like people, everyone has a tendency to lie.
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Re: Ouija experience
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What is your method or purpose for evokeing them and then what happens after they share their knowledge. Do they go on their way into the world or what?and what is the difference between evoke and invoke?
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Re: Ouija experience
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They for the most part mean the same thing. Personally I think evoking refers calling forth a spirit in be-holdable appearance while invoking means calling a spirit within yourself. At least for the most part most grimoires refer to these words in the same context that I do.

Yes, the purpose of evoking a spirit is to gain valuable insight on your path and into topics that they hold office over. You can leave it to this or issue the spirit tasks that you require to be taken care of such as procuring the love of someone, removing an enemy, or even matters of finance. There are many matters that spirits can hold office over and help you with.

My method of evocation deals with deep meditation on the Divine Architect. Once I invoke this energy, I hold it within myself until I reach the rapture state of my meditation. This can be in comparison to Kundalini. I then seal this energy within my ritual space and within all of my ritual tools. Afterwards at the point of exhaustion I say my conjuration and call the entity forth within the triangle of manifestation. Being in this state of exhaustion the mental images I get of the spirit begin to manifest within the incense smoke before me.

Afterwards I either ask the questions I had wanted answered by the spirit or I issue the entity with a task. For the most part I have found that spirits whether they are Daemons, Angels, Elementals, Godforms, or Olympian spirits they are more then happy to help you. They may ask for offerings but it's nothing like one would assume. Usually a good drink such as rum or wine will suffice or they might enjoy a specific kind of incense.

I've only had a few instances with spirits who didn't want to leave. This is when I use banishings to get rid of them. There are many books out there on this topic but If your interested in this aspect of magick I suggest working on meditation, visualization, opening your 3rd eye, developing your psychic hearing, and scrying. Once you have completely developed this, then you can apply it to a system that deals with evocation.
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