has anyone ever seen or "talked" to what people call demons I always watch a lot of paranormal shows and there would say things like there's a demonic entity in the room and was wondering if such beings are real.
By: AwakeTooLong Moderator / Knowledgeable Jun 11, 2013
Post # 2
What one must realize about such perspectives in TV shows is that to fit the mainstream they traditionally offer the Judeo-Christian view of "Demons," which is rooted in definitions born largely of demonology that was used during the witch hunt eras.
However, if you look into it and do a bit of digging, you'll find that a lot of the names of these demons are the names of local divinities, pagan gods, and so forth - they are not necessarily demonic, so much as non-christian.
This, from the Christian perspective, makes them a "demonic" influence. However, for many non-christians, a malevolent entity is simply a malevolent entity. Most that are simply negative and malicious are relatively minor in nature.
The truly potent spiritual beings tend to be at least somewhat balanced, or else well... they're just that, unbalanced in every sense of the word.
A lot of the more malignant forces that one may encounter are the residual energy of traumatic events, or rooted in the influence of human beings.
Anyway. I'm rambling a bit off topic. I hope that explains the broader spectrum for you.
oh well then what about all the history surrounding them, like people trying to summon them and selling your soul and all that stuff is that all just ( I think this is the word you use for it) fluff? if there's more things you can tell me about them in detail it would greatly be appreciated. even on other beings too if you know some things I trying to figure things out but am missing a lot of puzzle pieces.
It is possible to summon many entities using magick. This includes "demons" as well. Some consider it a bad thing to do while others do not. This is based pretty much on your own moral compass. It is important to note that summoning may make the entity upset because you are forcing it to come to you. calling ask the entity to come to you which normally leaves it with a less negitive demeaner towards you. You could "sell your soul" to some "demons" but it would depend on the situation. Demons are not always evil (as awake said usally they are more balanced and neutral) so many would have no real reason for your soul. Its much more common to give a gift of some energy or a token that entity desires for a boon.
By: AwakeTooLong Moderator / Knowledgeable Jun 11, 2013
Post # 5
It is also important to realize the borderline infinite nature of the soul. The concept of selling it is generally simplified and lacking in any real understanding of any sort of bargain involving its forfeit.
Giving it up in its entirety, or making use of it in its entirety, is relatively impossible. However, a true binding contract would likely require some sort of servitude, or the loss of one's identity to one extent or another. You would change, and you would find the subtle, or less than subtle, influence of the being with which you bargained entering your life or lives.
oh well I kind of get that part well not really but its something to go on. I don't understand then the people who say they summon them if there not really "demons" but also I don't get the fact of nde's calming that have seen hell and the monstrous demons and how god saved them (blah etc.) even reports from non-religious people (which bothers me.
These people summon entities. They label them demon which has become the mainstream label for these entities. the word means nothing really, it is just a label. For instance you could summon an angel, but it is not what you expect nor does it seem benevolent. you label it a demon and when other ask you describe it as a demon. For you it is a demon, a label you have given it. While in fact it is something else entirly. it is at its core an entity with its own thoughts and behavior. as for hell, I have no Idea if it exist or not. I do know there is the astral plain which at least makes it possible for some kind of hell to exist. Demons are incorporal beings. Thus those strong enough to appear often can choose the form thier apparence takes. This could be why some people have claimed to see "monstrous demons". As for god saving them... Im not here to debate religion so I leave that up to you, though I admit I am not religous myself. I do know that there are both good and evil entities, so it could be that one of these intervened (perhaps god for instance).
Demons do exist as a label. You have to understand that once you reach the point of making contact with these types of entities, the differences between them don't really apply to you anymore.
I think you have to go back to the reason for Lucifer's removal from the heavens. Lucifer did not agree with Jehova's (God's) rule that man should not practice magick. He thence wanted God's throne so he could rule the world and heavens as he desired. Unfortunately for him, the other angels agreed with God and removed Lucifer for him. Thus Satan is born. Satan is not the 'evil' entity he is sent out to be. He simply does not agree with God. Therefore, any powerful being that also does not agree with one or more of God's laws is thus labelled a demon and not allowed in heaven. Not all entities not allowed in heaven are demons either... for your information. It's more of the anti-God entities that receive that label.
With that being said, before attempting to make contact with any entity, you NEED to be properly prepared whether it be an angelic being, demonic, or any other. You need to know how to be protected, respectful, and in control of the situation. DO NOT attempt a contact until you are ready. Anything short of this would be considered foolish by most practitioners.
Thats tougher. The problem is that any given entity may or may not lie to you. You could try to force it to tell the truth, but that doesnt always work. It may actially make it not tell the truth. I usally hear what it has to say then ask myself if it makes sense. I check to see if I can get confirmation on the info in other places. I take it at face value. I know I could be false, but I know in most falsehoods there is a kernal of truth. Use intuition, and always double check the info. also in my opinion there are many better places to get information.