Oh and as for newton his time frame had a diffrent language due to science wasent organized yet and he is one of the four fathers of organizeing fact from fiction devoteing his life to reasearch. His last years were in house arrest cuz his reasearch on the earth going around the sun instead of the sun going around us. So the catholic church took away his right to pratice and locked him up in his home till he dided cuz the church at the time said the sun went around the earth and earth was the center of the universe wich is not true. But at that time it was agenst the law to say the church was wrong. So ya his life didn't end so well. But I am a big fan of newtons law my self and many of his works.
Brysing, is right Sir Isaac Newton was a strict Devout Christian, and was a great alchemist. Brysing never said anything about science. Alchemy is about rising the spiritual body to higher states in order to become Concious Immortaly.
@tinkatang the fact that you aren't open minded and can not accept that people will do as they please with their religious faiths then you are simply not allowing progression and expansion of the human mind and how our religious views are after all it is the Roman questioning spirit that has led us this far and it has also allowed progression in religion so therefore religion mixing is leading us down a path that could give way to a new religion that will be friendly to all and not have any hate or dislikes to any others but at ties this could also be very bad if certain religions would mix together
Re: Any Jewitches out there? By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 12 Jun 20, 2013
This thread has become ridiculous! The original post was merely asking for other Jews who practised witchcraft. There was no mention of the religion of Judaism!
Does anybody in these days of enlightenment really believe that all Jews practise Judaism?
There are many Christian Jews, I know one personally. Remember when you start quoting the Holy Bible that the first Christians were Jews!
Re: Any Jewitches out there? By: Lark Moderator / Adept
Post # 13 Jun 20, 2013
That wasn't Newton who was placed on house arrest for saying that the earth rotated around the sun, that was Galileo.
Newton was an English subject and a member of the Church of England. The Catholic Church in England had no power to arrest British subjects. Newton was born in 1642, the year that Galileo died. By that time the theory of heliocentrism was well accepted. There's an excellent biography of Newton at http://web.clas.ufl.edu/users/ufhatch/pages/01-courses/current-courses/08sr-newton.htm
So, to clarify. When one fish is turned into many, that's not magic? That's a miracle? That's semantics. Catholics consume the body and blood of a man that has been trans-substantiated from bread into flesh, and wine into blood. But that's ceremony, not magic? That's hypocrisy. That's selling your brand of a belief system and trying to discredit or demonize any other. Pepsi does not believe in Coca Cola. Mountain Dew be with you.
Re: Any Jewitches out there? By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 15 Jun 21, 2013
Lark is correct about Newton! It was not he who was arrested.It is as Lark says; in Catholic countries people were indeed put under house arrest for preaching anything against Catholic beliefs.Such as Copernicus. But it was not really known about Newton's Alchemy until after his death, even though his Christianity beliefs were rather unorthodox. But he was never arrested for his beliefs, or for anything else. He was a famous and renowned scientist! He did a lot more than discover Gravity!
Actually Brysing is rite.According to the US government, wicca is the only established 501c(3) group out there. Witchcraft is labelled as a form of folk magick.
While I don't really like christians talking about being witches on the radio, all religious establishments can do so.
Re: Any Jewitches out there? By: AwakeTooLong / Knowledgeable
Post # 18 Jun 28, 2013
Those who practice magic(k) are ordinary mortals. Don't kid yourself by thinking otherwise.
That being said, these are the ten commandments.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy
Honour thy father and thy mother
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Thou shalt not covet
Turns out none of those say a thing about practicing magic(k) or being a witch. Also,none of them say anything about being an "ordinary mortal." What ten commandments were you reading?
Exodus 22:18 does state:
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
However, it should be noted that this is from the King James version. The inquisition had been going on for about a century or so, and King James... well, he loved himself some burnt witches. As all respectable kings of the time did in the Western world.
The bible (or old testament anyway) was first translated from Hebrew to Greek, then to Latin, and then to German, and then finally translated into English during the 1500s. If you've ever tried to use Google Translate, some ideas are lost in the process of translating from one language to another. Words just don't mean the same thing. Verbs change. So on and so forth. Well, Hebrew doesn't contain the word "witch." The original word was "chasapah." Translated to Latin, this becomes "Veneficum." In Latin, we understand this to mean poisoner. The term for "witch" in Latin is "malificos." However, when "Veneficum" was translated to German by Martin Luther, it was translated as "Die Zuberinnen." This was the German term for a female witch, and in turn was noted in the margins of the translation as a term that could be used somewhat non-gender specifically.
So, there you have it. Nothing is actually against witches or magick in the Bible. Indeed, Moses himself is considered a celebrated sorcerer who had the famous magical duel against the Egyptian priests.
