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DNA
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Post # 1
I keep reading comments from various folk who claim it is not possible to change your DNA.

This is inaccurate.

Adaption is a genetic change and can and does happen in your own lifetime.

Whereas the idea of turning oneself into some fictional and fanciful creature can be dismissed, I do not believe there is a proper basis for a blanket YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR DNA.
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Re: DNA
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 2
"Adaption is a genetic change and can and does happen in your own lifetime. "

Is this statement an opinion or fact ?

If you are presenting it as fact ,you should have provided all the scientific data ,required through scientific method .

Why this scientific work has not been included under the statement ?
Are we expected to get this seriously ?
And if we are why there has not been scientific approach to it ,since it is clearly a science .

If this is only your opinion on scientific subject ,it does not count much without scientific back up .

Therefore this thread is nothing ,but waste of time for your reader ,because when it comes to science, we want proper facts and additional information not guess work and opinions .

"I keep reading comments from various folk who claim it is not possible to change your DNA."

So to summarize :

You keep reading the comments of all people and their "climes ".

And then you had a random urge to put out there your clime on the question ,so we are made aware of this .

But the main point is what you have stated above ,put this way ,is clime too .
In case that you decide to provide some scientific information and studies about it ,I may call it fact .



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Re: DNA
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Post # 3
Don't know what a clime is.

It is easy enough to find this evidence; far harder to find evidence to the contrary.

Though please don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I do not believe in ones lifetime they could develop wings, however and with determined generational collusion toward the same end, eventually it would happen.
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Re: DNA
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 4
It was a typo for "claim " .Pardon me for that one .

I would really love to see those scientific evidence for our DNA changing due to adaptation process ,within ones lifetime .

Can you please add them here or give us a link to follow ?
I think many can benefit knowing about, if there are any .I for once would ,because I am interested in the DNA and genetics .

I did not misunderstand you on idea of becoming mythological creature and growing wings .I got your idea for it .
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Re: DNA
By: / Novice
Post # 5

I agree with Artindark, the post should have been expanded.

When someone on this site says that one cannot change DNA, it is accurate because that is not possible by casting a spell. The process that occurs through adaptation is subtle during a lifetime and influenced by physical factors.

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Re: DNA
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Post # 6
Celene

I think that is where we will differ. I do not believe it is accurate. Environmental influences can cause DNA to change, but it is not the environment that changes it, it's the human body. It will come from whatever source inside of us that makes the change.

A lot of what we do is automatic, breathing for example. Our heart beating, yet each of these can be consciously controlled. We use magic to influence others, our lives, our gains and yes, even our losses. Is it so fanciful to change our DNA?

And to include Artindark, I don't see why I should be the one to prove my side of this debate. It wasn't me that claimed DNA cannot be changed. However, epigentetics would be a good place to start research.

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Re: DNA
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Post # 7
And Artindark, don't go running away with the idea that you're the only one with typos.

Should have read Epigenetics without the extra 'T'
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Re: DNA
By: / Novice
Post # 8

Perhaps. :)

It isn't the environment that changes it. That is true. But the body doesn't just say that it's going to change itself because it feels like it. The body is built for survival and will not change at someone's leisure.

Given that a lot of people have trouble reaching a state of consciousness where they can even control their breathing properly or meditate effectively, to attempt to say that perhaps our DNA can be altered that way is theoretical and will need more basis if people are to take it seriously.

I believe scientists have attempted to genetically mutate beings and have ended up with detrimental effects. Anyhow, my point being that a conscious attempt to alter DNA whether by magick or physical means probably cannot happen immediately or even anyhow relatively over one lifetime with success.

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Re: DNA
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 9
But you instead claimed -"Adaptation is a genetic change and can and does happen in your own lifetime ".

Do you have any intentions to back up this statement with any serious evidence ,or you simply intend to shift the responsability for your claims to other people ,which are only accountable for their own ?

If that is the case ,please inform us ,so we will dismiss this thread and claim as serious and informative in future .

Breathing(some process related to it ) and Heart Rate are controlled by The Automatic(Involuntary) Nervous System .AIS is controlled below conscious level ,hence the automatic (involuntary ) name .

"Parasympathetic System slows the heartbeat to normal when the fear has passed (rest and recovery )"

"Sympathetic system increases the heart rate (flight or fight response )"

Source of my claims my college book of Anatomy and Physiology .

Secondary source to support this claim :

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Involuntary_nervous_system
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Re: DNA
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Post # 10
here is some proof DNA can be changed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkyjOpiO7SE
not the most scientific, but is correct. this shows how how gene typing can change DNA

http://www.wisegeek.org/can-your-dna-change-during-your-life.htm#slideshow
This is an article, so its more scientific then the first link. This tells a little about a couple of ways DNA can change.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/10/24/163509093/geneticists-breach-ethical-taboo-by-changing-genes-across-generations
An article of the ethics of changing genes in a egg of a female. they have actially done this, which shows DNA can be changed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_therapy
gene therapy is methods of changing DNA to stop genetic disease.

http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/medicine/genetherapy.shtml
and finally a scientific site that goes into gene therepy.

scientic journals cost money so I didnt put any here. If you are interested in scientic journals that support this try pub med. this is an internet journal site. As a recap it is possible to change DNA its just highly experimental. if you want more links to sites please mail me and ill pm some back to you.

Be Well
Kur'Ost
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