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LBRP and belief...
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One day I was walking down my sidewalk when an hipster looking guy noticed my pentagram necklace and said "blessed me." I greeted him and said the sane. We then started talking about paganism and how I was rededocating myself into it. He told me he was a christian wiccan and that the LBRP ritual worked to help him everyday. He told me "you should go into christian wicca. Its all about good and you don't have to go to hell for it". I was offended and told him I had to leave. I then thought about the LBRP ritual and thought about doing it.

One problem. It took me years to get out of christianity. I couldn't take the pain and the constricting mental chains. It hurt me too much. I was scared for my life until I actually reached the truth. Anyway, this guy says it was amazing for him but....I don't believe in the jewish god. I beleieve in angels but there is too much disproof for there to be the jewish god to me. Too many contradictions. Therefore I don't know if I can do this ritual if I dont believe. Can I?
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Re: LBRP and belief...
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You don't have to do it if you don't want to, no ones forcing you.
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Yes. I understand that but it seems like a good idea to do the ritual. Can I change the words or something?
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One way to look at it, and the way I prefer to look at it, is that this isn't the Jewish god nearly so much as it is the Jewish names of the highest Divine. I also know the LBRP is used be the largely pagan Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn, and all they change is YHVH... though I can't remember what they switch it for. I'm searching their site because they keep most of their stuff public (hence, "open source"), but I haven't found it yet.

Here, you can have a go searching;
http://www.osogd.org/
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seriously dont do it, the lbrp in my opinion is the wrong ritual to peform especially if you are a satanist. There are many, more powerfull rituals you can peform than the ones jewish make. I don't trust anything they put out they even claim the kabbalah as there creation which is not true, they usually just alter the real stuff and attach spells on it..
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"There are many, more powerfull rituals you can peform than the ones jewish make."

The LBRP is not a Jewish ritual, it is a Hermetic ritual.
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i havent studied exactly were it came from i know it was derived from hebrew language?
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If you are uncomfortable with the God names in the original ritual just use your own with appropiate attributions for each quarter.

i.e. perhaps Poseidon for west etc. or hoever you work with.

I realise this is badly written and explained but hey its late.
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i havent studied exactly were it came from i know it was derived from hebrew language?
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It was developed by members of the relatively recent Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (founded in late 1800s). Hermeticism itself draws primarily with things developed in and near the Middle East, going as far out as Greece, Egypt, and India. Obviously a great deal of this is from the Abrahamic tradition, plus most of these people were raised within a Judeo-Christian mindset and so these particular names and symbols were most familiar and meaningful to the folks who made this ritual. Their use of Jewish mysticism made them about as Jewish as believing in chakras makes you and I Hindu.
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