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summoning help?
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Hey I'm trying to figure out a simple method of summoning spirits and demons. Does any know what I could do to summon one after casting a circle. I'm familiar with scrying and the goetia but im looking for a simple method that doesn't take a lot of time and something that will produce a manifestation
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Post # 2
Wait, you want to summon demons and you're asking for a short-cut!? There are reasons why summonings are so complex and they are specifically meant to keep you alive and non-possessed.
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Re: summoning help?
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Post # 3
exactly jackal. don't take shortcuts in magic, it only ends badly, especially when powerful beings are involved. do not summon a demon. demons are very powerful and very dangerous, while not all evil, they see you as unworthy, you're in trouble. while you shouldn't summon a spirit either, given the option, go for spirit. HOWEVER that doesn't mean you'll be safe, it just means if you screw up, you'll have slightly better odds.

spirits are all around us, just go and meditate outside. you said you know how to skry, so try that. there's a believe i was told as a child, that obake [Japanese ghosts] wander outside at dusk so if you're playing outside and bump into one they'll bite you. if you get a bruise that doesn't hurt and you can't remember how it got there, you bumped into an obake and it bite you. you can just talk to them, they're mostly alright, they were once people, so they can relate to human emotion. [most anyway, some are animal spirits, but they're usually weaker and just hang around a little bit as orbs] why do you want to summon in the first place, if you don't mind my asking?
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Ok well first of all an Obake is a vengeful or restless ghost. Obake is used as loose blanket term for any kind of supernatural being, not just vengeful ghost. I have no fear of being harmed by these entities, thus not feeding them with my fearful emotions I can't be controlled by these entities. I have summoned and invoked demons before and have communicated with them on good terms. I simply bring them an offering, that pleases them by doing a little research on their origin and finding out what people offered them as gifts at the time they were worshiped as gods. I am a satanist and a paranormal investigator, and I completely know what I'm doing and getting into, all I am looking for in this post is a simplified version to summon demons and spirits instead of going through a long drawn out routine. When you give these creatures the respect they deserve they usually wont try to harm you. Also if you have done your research on demons obviously you would know they harm and possess the weak minded and fearful. Speaking of which how can you truly know things are harmful if you haven't experienced them yourself. Is it because the media or tv says their harmful or are you scared of the unknown. Some people need to walk through some self empowerment before they claim to be a witch. Nothing should hold you back in the name of alchemy and science.
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yessss I shall help you your right do not submit to fear when summoning a demon it will attract greys or negative dimensional beings toss that aside also DO NOT use circles to summon demons that is just asking for trouble and lots of it the old methods are blasphemy simply to summon a demon you must obtain there alchemic symbol or sigil which demon were you planning on summoning?
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"yessss I shall help you your right do not submit to fear when summoning a demon it will attract greys or negative dimensional beings toss that aside also DO NOT use circles to summon demons that is just asking for trouble and lots of it the old methods are blasphemy simply to summon a demon you must obtain there alchemic symbol or sigil which demon were you planning on summoning?" -by observ

-->>just want to comment on this post.. actually, casting circles in summoning is not just as protection against outside forces but an affirmation that you are a god and everything are subjects to your command, this is done by strong will.. that's the reason why circles of power should be done based on the maturity of the magician (practice of magickal evocation by franz bardon, adversarial light by michael ford).. the only thing spirits have gone wild is because they do torture them when they don't abide on the magician's call.. you can't say it is a blasphemy in demons by just casting circles because if you would just study grimoires outside theurgy, they do use infernal evocation circles (well of course using infernal names of power)..

so, to steve666-->>there really are no simple methods on summoning.. in order for you to succeed, all the necessary requirements should be done.. why? it's like catching a fish.. basically, if you are going to catch a fish you are taking that fish outside of its surrounding.. what will happen to the fish then if you don't put it on a similar container (with similar surrounding), the fish will perish.. same goes to summoning.. if you wishes to summon one, then you must create an appropriate surrounding for the spirit for it will not last for 15 mins to manifests.. using black mirrors will help because mirrors are said to be the windows to the astral world..
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the old grimoires are blasphemy!! Spirits are much DIFFERENT than demons and since we are on the topic have you ever summoned a demon?
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lol.. you really made me laugh observ.. spirits are different from demons? who told you that information? lol..

demons are divine beings.. divine beings of the astral plane.. anything related to the astral plane are considered spirits-->>be it an elemental, a familiar, a demon, an angel, servitors, etc..

you're asking me if i have summoned demons? then ask lilith, azazel, astarte, satandar, lucifuge, about that matter.. maybe they've told you stories about me.. lol..

it will be a blasphemy if your way of summoning is rude.. if it's not rude, if you don't use "force" in summoning-->>that you can't consider blasphemy.. if you are going to study (since you've said about old grimoires) "not" all grimoires are blasphemy on lucifer's name.. try to look for ancient persian sorcery or babylonian magick.. the only blasphemy is of the "judeo-christian" techniques of summoning-->>why? because of their very idea of YHWH..

and just what i'm talking about casting circles, as i have said circles used in summoning is not just because of protection but an "affirmation" that you are god yourself-->that is why it is preferable to use circles that best fits you, why? because that circle will be a representation of your higher self, well of course dependent on what discipline you are focused on, if you don't use circles in summoning many lesser spirits will draw close to you and you might be tricked with them-->>higher chance that you will fall under that lesser spirit's influence.. summoning entities doesn't mean that if you call the spirit you want to summon it will immediately appears before you.. lesser spirits will be drawn up more to your ritual.. that is why many inexperienced summoners have been caught up by these lesser spirits-->>as a result, these summoners didn't know exactly if the spirit you have evoked is the one you are looking for or rather it is just a lesser one..
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satan told me himself that demons of his caliber are true gods so infact comparing a spirit to a god is disrespectfull they have much higher bio electricity than any spirit from what i know and i myself am of sumarian/babylonian descent is to trust common sense you can tell when satan and his demons are summoned simply by feeling there bio electricity you have been fooled mu friend they hate circles thats what the judeo/christian used to bind them with while using blasphemy false god names you probly have some weak entity making you play god and bind the demon you summon inside the circle while they manipulate you freely outside the circle very common mistake also demons demand respect and you cannot force them to do anything they are very busy beings thats why its easy to get tricked they have a lower order of demons that deal with this pest.
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Post # 10
i won't repeat what I've said before my friend..

namaste..
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