Elemental Control

Hey,windyone! You never give up, do you? Just like some religious maniac you want everyone to believe what you believe.
They don't! They will not! Right at the beginning of this thread you asked people to "try it". That should have been it; the end of the matter. But you still keep arguing for your own ideas. You have said your piece. Now forget it. Nobody is really interested.

Oh give me a break Brysing. You are the last one who underestimate me. Others are believing me and others are not. And yes, I never give up, to such nonsense you are speaking of. All of you "knowledgeable" started all of this argue. You just stay out of it, if you are not interesting.

I asked for instruction so I could try it and I received more pieces to a story that didn't match and bits of a ritual that I have been describing as the same old, same old.

Again, it is a student screaming about the wonder of multiplication to someone who teaches calculus or trigonometry.

Okay to all windys "contradictory" talk, remember his English is not in perfect context, so words used are often general terms. I came to understand his logic by the fourth e-mail between us.. and it is obvious this theory is not "new". In reality none of the things discussed here are.. read thread again, and "just try it" :D

We cannot just "try it" as this thread has been mainly argumentative, and has not given the needed steps and clarifications as to just how we would "try it".

Feel free to mail me for my "understanding"

I completely understand the language barrier, and have asked for clarification on points such as the "lost rumor" only to have that line been refuted as though it were my own invention.

I do not mean to continue the argumentative nature of this discussion, only to explain my previous words. The inconsistencies are not a matter of word choice or language, but variance in story.

I would agree to that. And it seems to be the only reason people are arguing on the thread is miscommunication.

I stopped commenting on the public forums along time ago because most of the posts were really childish. When I saw this however, I was amazed. Seriously people, what could possible make anyone believe a a hoax like this. My advice to anyone wanting to work with the elements is to get a copy of Franz Bardons Initiation Into the Hermetics. It's the only book I can really recommend.

I am into dreams to so that would help me if some one helped me to