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Dead/Inactive Covens
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Post # 1
How about installing members rated knowledgeable/adept as the Priest/ess of the covens that are apparently dead? Selection would be among those so rated and who are not already titled as mod, editor, HPs, or council.

Just a thought.


Also, it may be helpful to have a group just for priests & priestesses to discuss issues and share leadership skills.
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Re: Dead/Inactive Covens
By: / Beginner
Post # 2
I like that idea, Stoney.

I'd push the group for the p/p's a bit further and encourage it to include council. I don't think all covens understand the purpose of council, nor what their duties include.
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Re: Dead/Inactive Covens
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Post # 3
i was thinking just the hp/s and they could educate their own councils as they are promoted. *shrug*
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Re: Dead/Inactive Covens
By: / Beginner
Post # 4
In that case, I would agree.
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Re: Dead/Inactive Covens
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Post # 5

The idea of this is something I could support as well.

A) Even dead covens have potential. I got Council of Knowledge back on its feet, why can't other covens be given the same opportunity? And it would be progress made in that direction, progress long awaited.

B) When there was such a group in existence it was successful! There was however, the issue that the founder was, incapable of running a group if you will, and the coven went down with him. I thought it was quite unfair, but perhaps something to that sort could be given a second chance perhaps this time with a leader that can, "behave". It would give coven leaders a chance to really create alliances instead of just doing nothing with their "sister covens".

I like the ideas, Stone, maybe they will be taken into consideration, just maybe.

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Re: Dead/Inactive Covens
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Post # 6

Yeah, it sounds great in theory, so, in theory I completely agree with you.

But theory and reality are so far in between each other.

For the most part, I'd say some of the rankings are accurate, just some. Not all of the rankings are accurate for the simple fact that we as human beings can't accurately judge another person. In the end only the individual can judge their own skills and we can only judge the skills we see. A person may know nothing of energy wells, but knows quite a bit about chakras, or vice versa. Then it becomes a matter of what this individual then chooses to share with us. Maybe they only show some knowledge of it, but no where near what they actually know.

That's my reasoning behind what I am about to say.

Ranking someone based on what they know sounds good, but in the end, it's wrong and juvenile. It reminds me of high school and knowing who is the brains, who knows nothing, who knows something, and who is a plain old idiot. But more than that, it reminds me of the cliques of high school. The cool kids siding together, the losers, jocks, etc. Yeah, some of the people in the groups actually belong there, but most people don't fit where they are actually at, not inside where it counts.

The same could be said of the ranking systems here. Some people are listed in places they shouldn't be in my opinion, but again, it's based off a majority vote where you need a certain number to go up or down. So yeah, I understand there are bugs in the system.

I'll say this as well, since it's coming up in my current coven over who should run it and what's being done to move it forward. Not everyone has what it takes to run a coven. Knowledgeable/Adept people don't necessarily belong running a coven, dead or alive. I'm putting it this way, because I think you'll understand it more, especially the three of you who I know have run covens before. You know people have been in charge of covens they shouldn't have been put in charge of. People who on the surface appear like they know what they are doing.

And no, I'm not talking about anyone in particular, but you guys have been on here long enough to know it's true, it's why so many covens are where they are now.

I want the covens revived to be honest, but I doubt there are enough people on this site who are knowledgeable and can actually handle a coven. And pulling simply from groups that are deemed knowledgeable is wrong because the system is set up to separate, to categorize and determine a person's ability, when it is only the individual who truly knows their own ability.

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Re: Dead/Inactive Covens
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Post # 7
Khaos, i suggested using the ranking only because we already have people who are inactive, unqualified, inept, etc., running covens which is a great portion of the reason some are DEAD.

You have a better selection process, besides applying for the job to Petrarca, post it!
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Re: Dead/Inactive Covens
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Post # 8

Actually, I do. The covens where the priest and/or priestess log on, but do nothing towards their covens should be warned, given 3-4 months to make a certain level of progress, then replaced. That gives them at least a chance to change their behavior. The covens who have leaders that have been gone for more than 3-4 months should be straight up changed.

As for who should be put in charge? I honestly think that it should be one of the members of the actual coven. A member or councilor of the coven who has put time and effort into where they are at in the hopes to at least help someone in their coven. Some random member of the site, who has never been a member of the individual coven, and/or doesn't know anything about the coven they are in shouldn't be in any position to run the coven, for the simple fact that they don't understand that coven, it's members, or the needs of the coven as a whole.

The members applicable have to have been members of the coven, stablely for more than 2 months under a single name, and have contributed a number of posts. Councilors would be given precidence since they are already assisting in running the coven. As for who chooses who should be the leader, let the members themselves decide. It is their coven, give them the choice. Pet, like in US government, would either veto or stamp his approval.

That way, everyone gets what they want, everyone has a chance, and everyone has a voice, rather than an elite group. :)

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Re: Dead/Inactive Covens
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Post # 9
I must say;
Bravo KhaosQueen. Your thoughts and suggestions are very reasonable.
Blessed Be.
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Re: Dead/Inactive Covens
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Post # 10

Love both ideas, but Khaos taps on some great, great points. As Lone said, bravo on that behalf.

A especially great point made by Khaos is that what one may be adept in, they may be a beginner in something else. This is another reason why the knowledge system is not completely accurate, although I appreciate quite a few people are great all-rounders.

As I said before, love both ideas even though it has flaws. Of course, the flaws are not due to the idea, but due to the knowledge system.

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