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Kinesis
By: / Beginner
Post # 1
There are a lot of kinesises out there, it means manipulation of matter, i have tried many kinesises and some work and some dont, i just wanted to know which are the kinesises that are real and which are fake.
From experience i know pyrokinesis, aerokinesis and electrokinesis are real to some level and that biokinesis is not real, or maybe it just doesnt work for me.
Can anyone tell me which are the kinesis that you have practiced and found to be real?
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Re: Kinesis
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Post # 2
your right about pyrokinisis that is real i do have a rather simple theorie i created experimenting with pyrokinisis the theorie is that whatever kinisis you are practicing will work if it has an energy to it then you could attach and fuse your personal energy with the other energy and have more control to do what you want with that other energy because attaching your own energy to it makes it more of a part of you
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Post # 3
As you said kinesis is the manipulation of matter, if we can manipulate fire, why not cells, biokinesis is changing the cell structure, it is much harder than manipulation if fire.
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Re: Kinesis
By: / Beginner
Post # 4
The idea of biokinesis states that you can change physical structure of the body which is impossible in magick and if you do do it, it would rip your bones apart so i just believe it is not real, but it might just be me.
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Re: Kinesis
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Post # 5

Everything is possible to a certain extent. However, obtaining certain things differs because of the laws governing reality.

You can not change the DNA of something, but you can use magick to help cause better healthy conditions, and people tend to look "better" when healthy.

You can not hold fire in the palm of your bare hand, but you can use the aspects of fire to help with your practices in magic.

All psionic abilities are different types of charged energy, energy can affect anything, but only in certain ways. So you can affect the physical structure of something, but you can not force it to change, so to speak.

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Re: Kinesis
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Post # 6
But you can affect change in the physical world with your mind, this is one of the greatest and most groundbreaking ideas of modern quantum physics. Ironically philosophers and magick-users have been saying much the same thing for the past couple thousand years.
A good example of this would be Schrodier's (not spelled right) cat. This was a hypothetical experiment he proposed in which a cat was placed in a box for twenty years without anybody ever opening or looking inside of the box. After the twenty years is up and you open the box, is the cat dead or alive? There are only two possible answers, a)its dead or b)its not. You can't know which one it is until you observe the cat by opening the box, except by opening the box you are in fact changing the very nature of the reality within said box. Before it is opened, the cat hangs in a sort of limbo, it is neither dead nor alive. However, knowing the cat has been in there with no food, water, or air for twenty years you expect it to be dead, and upon opening the box it is this preconception that tilts the balance of life and death in the favor of death, therefore the reality within the box changes to fit in accordance with your mind, and the cat dies. Therefore you can change reality with you thoughts, one has to only accept the true reality of our world, that is that there is no reality except for the one that we create for ourselves. Once this has been realized and accepted 100% by a person with absolutely no doubt in his or her mind, they can do litterally anything because the physical world has to hold on them. Taking this further, if we create our own reality with our thoughts, and no two people are the same, then it logically follows that everybody lives in their own reality, everybody lives in their universe, so to speak, interacting with everybody elses, and while similar to theirs in most regards, is different in enough minute ways to make it unique.
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Re: Kinesis
By: / Beginner
Post # 7
That is an very interesting idea. And biokinesis is just hard to believe, but it might be real, sure, in theory it does seem to be true but when a friend of mine tried it, it didnt work and all he said was that if he were to change the structure of the cell, it will cause mutation, of course it is theory and he is the only one i know who tried it so i cant say anything for sure, i will hold with my idea that biokinesis is not possible till i have tried it
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Re: Kinesis
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Post # 8
allanon that very intristing it was kind of hard to understand at first but it is intresting although i feel bad about the cat
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Re: Kinesis
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Post # 9
lol science has no pity, even on kitty cats XD
and personally I believe everything is possible, somethings are just more probable than others. Is it possible to change the structure of your or others cells using your mind? Perhaps. Is it very likely to happen? Not really.
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Re: Kinesis
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Post # 10
You can transform your mind. I've only tried pyrokinesis and know that's 100% true as for creating fire balls and throwing them I think that would take an inhuman amount of energy and focus....
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