Sorry I did ignore the whole point of your post and went all judgemental on it which I apologise for.
First off I regret doing the spell because although the person came back, they came back angry and tormented as they couldn't stop thinking about me, but once they came back the spell was over and they went back to the way they were feeling before I cast the IS.
Secondly, the results I saw were quite vague to begin with, unknown numbers calling me, obvious fake profiles on facebook wanting to be friends, just a lot of nonsense to begin with like that, but then it was her turning up at places she knew I'd be, until finally she asked to meet up and once we got through the 5 senses specified in the spell (hearing, seeing, smelling, touching, tasting) she quickly went back to the old her. (BTW the IS spell on here only lists 4 senses but asks to torture 5 so thats why the spell is dangerous)
I'm not a bad looking bloke, but she was well out of my league and would get asked out in coffee shops, on the bus, everywhere she went she'd get offers, from normal blokes to some famous people, so it seemed impossible to get her back but I did.
To go with this long reply lol, I really suggest alongside the IS you do some healing work, and some love work, the IS is NOT a love spell its a restless spell, a honey jar is perfect to go alongside this so when that person comes back they are developing feelings of love through that 2nd spell.
oh, don't worry. I didn't feel you were being judgmental. I thought you were just passing on a friendly warning.
hmmm... so in you case, did you do any love work along with the IS or did you learn that afterwards? Do you mind if i ask how long it took her to come back for how long she stayed? Did she actually report to you that she couldn't stop thinking about you or could you just see it from her actions.
on my case, my ex already loves me. He flat out told me. He just doesn't want to get back together because he thinks it's the wrong decision. Think I could have success with this spell then if there are feelings of love there? (I've had a honey jar and other things going for a while anyway.)
thanks. hope you dont mind all the questions. It's just hard finding someone with experience in this.
Of course I don't mind the questions, its nice to help and it actually shows you care by researching this first before casting it.
I didn't do any love work alongside this because I was waiting until the following month when a friday was either the full moon or the day before the full moon and that was 7 weeks away from when I cast the IS (BTW the IS can be cast at anytime during the moon phases).
She came back within 5 weeks (signs after 3 weeks like the calls and facebook, full return in 5 weeks), when she came back she told me she couldn't stop thinking about me but didn't know why she couldn't stop (thats where the love spell would have given her a reason to understand why), she told me she couldn't concentrate and was waking up through the night desperate to ring me.
Her actions to begin with were angry, she wanted to spend time with me but would argue over nothing, she was like a drug user and I was her drug, once she got a hit that was it she just seemed to awake from a dream and realised it wouldn't work out.
With this spell you ask a spirit to help you get contact, once contact is made the spirit leaves, so under no circumstances can you contact the target, you must wait for the target to contact you, thats the whole point of this spell, if you ring him then the spirit gets released from its duty and the spell is over, it also should be noted on the spell page that divination to ask if the spirit will work with you is essential otherwise it could backfire.
Personally I would suggest another route for you to go down before trying this, because your case isn't suited for the IS as its not going to change his feelings towards you. I would redo the Honey Jar but I would add to the petition paper Catnip (ask it to capture his heart for you), Damiana (ask it to bring him back to you), Dill Seeds (ask them to make you irresistable to him). Around the crossed names in a circle I would write "come back love me", because if he loves you truly he wouldn't want to be away from you.
when you say redo the honey jar, do you mean scrap the one I have and start over or just add those herbs to the existing jar?
I learned about damiana well after I started the honey jar so I sprinkled it around the jar hoping that would help. I don't know if that can be effective or not.
With your current jar which herbs do you have inside, and what is your petition written in the circle around the names, plus how long have you had it going?
You would need it inside the jar rather than around.
The jar you have may be whats keeping him loving you, so it depends on the herbs and petition, and if they aren't matching the outcome you want then I would start again, if they do match then back to the drawing board for another approach.
well, that's just the thing. The honey jar is the very first magical working I've ever done. I did it before I knew anything about herbs, oils and such. So the only thing I have in there are personal concerns, the petition paper, a pair of magnets, the honey and not much else. It was many months ago so I don't even remember what's on the petition. but I believe in it because three weeks after I started it, my ex re-entered my life.
I've since, of course, increased my knowledge and skill and have incorporated a lot more workings & materials. I've worked two rounds of magic on him. Both times he slowly re-entered my life until it looked like we were on the brink of reconciling and then something would happen and it would die out. The one constant is him saying that he loves me but despite the feelings, he doesn't want to try again.
So I get results but not full results. I don't know how to get past that last hurdle so if you have any suggestions, I'm all ears! thanks
Well sounds like its working so keep going with that, when you do works its on average 3 days for a sign, 3 weeks for movement, 3 months for results, of course they aren't set in stone but sounds like your first magical working was a good success.
If something bad happened between you's causing the break up then do a road opener spell, that clears the path so you can move forward and forget the problems of the past, that may help you get over that final hurdle. Its as simple as getting some Road Opener oil and dressing a candle praying for it to remove whatever issues are stopping your ex from wanting to be with you.
From there I would do a "dressed letter", thats where you write the person a letter and sprinkle certain Hoodoo powders like Love Me or Follow Me Boy/Girl onto the letter and while you run your fingers through the powder down the page you say aloud your petition and what you want the powder to do, the person then comes in contact with the powder and the magic starts to work, perfect opportunity with Christmas coming up to send a card.
If you can't wait until Christmas, how about constructing your own spell/ritual using the guides on the site, your own spells are the most powerful.
Sorry abitrandom82 I have just seen your question.
Some people say doing both is a bad idea because they are crossing purposes, but others disagree and I am one of them.
I disagree because the Honey Jar is dealing with them loving you more, while the IS is dealing with them being restless until they come back to you, so its not really cross purposes because without the honey jar they could attribute that restlessness to hating you.
When the person comes back to you after the IS they are angry and confused as to why they need to see you, touch you etc, so the honey jar is there to make sense of it and they go "oh yeah its because I love him/her".
By the way do not use the IS spell on this site, it has parts missing.
As for making the spell stronger, you can't make it stronger than it is because the restless feeling builds and builds, its a spirit from hell torturing them until they return to you.
Some people believe that once the person returns to you, the spirit that helped you is free to leave hell, and you take its place upon death.
My oil combinations are Restless Oil & Follow Me Girl/Boy.
