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Post # 1
Here's a description about my coven, Knights Templar.

This coven is devoted to fighting the dark forces. Our spells mainly are designed to heal, cleanse, and destroy darkness. We don't accept any black magick in our coven. If you want to harm people, don't join. We also don't accept necromancy. We believe that we can call upon the energy of good deities to help us in our fight against the dark forces. Any deity is accepted wether it be God, Allah, Vishnu, etc. as long as they are deities that do good.

New spells on the way.
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Re: New coven
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Post # 2
"1. Our spells mainly are designed to heal, cleanse, and destroy darkness/demons/devils/etc.
2. We don't accept any black magick in our coven. If you want to harm people, don't join.
3. We also don't accept necromancy.
4. We believe that we can call upon the energy of good deities to help us in our fight against the dark forces.
5. Any deity is accepted whether it be God, Allah, Vishnu, etc. as long as they are deities that do good."
I have some objections.
(5)Isn't God and Allah the same deity?
(1)This coven seems to be a Christian/Catholic/Judaism type Coven..
especially the stuff about demons, what about benevolent and malevolent angels? Demons don't do anything unless you provoke them, just like a human, if you provoke the mature ones, be sure to get sued, or have some sort of disability, unless they're the spiritually enlightened ones, even so, people have limits. Why are you so prejudiced? Do you understand the balance? Destruction of a demon? Are you kidding me?
What gives you the right to destroy a demon? What will that do, that makes you better than them? If they did something to you, at least you're alive and breathing, you're DESTROYING them, that makes you worse than them.
I don't see your point with Necromancy. No one has done anything to you with necromancy, and if you were to use your "God said so" crap, then that's using religious reasons as ethical reasons, which is utter BS, what gives you the right to destroy another's creations, while they're not allowed to retaliate? What kind of light magick is that!?
"A coven that is devoted to fighting the dark forces." - What are these dark forces that you speak of?
Any mod dare delete what I write, is either someone who doesn't deserve to be a mod, or is being bribed by this adamt23, Priest of the "Templar Knights".
State your religion, Adamt23, I also await your explanation, not your whining about me posting "evil" comments on this topic.
Once you post up something, it's open to criticism, free world mate, your god gave me a voice, and I shall use it.
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Re: New coven
By: / Adept
Post # 3
Necromancy is summoning spirits - what you do with or ask of those spirits varies.

It's not automatically "dark" or "black magic" or "destructive." It's just spirit work.

Heck, when i was a practicing Earth Spiritualist, our Samhain rituals were Necromantic - inviting and communing with the Beloved Dead. Those people would have fainted if you had considered what we were doing as "black magic" - a Neo-Pagan no-no.
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Re: New coven
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Post # 4
You are entitled to your own opinions......but WOW are you delusional and seriously misled.

LdyGry said it best about what Necromancy is. I'm not sure where you got the idea that working with spirits are a bad thing. Many people in many cultures will call upon their ancestors for help. That would be the dead by the way.

Your ideas of killing demons...laughable. You go right ahead and try. I'm sure you could manage to damage some lesser demons, but if you play with the big boys..don't cry when you and your "knights" get hurt or killed for you will have brought that upon yourself.

You speak of deities that do good. Define good for me. Is it creating a world and giving free will? Because it is free will that has made man kind do "evil" things. Since free will was created by God, would it not be considered "evil" itself thus making God the creator of "evil" things? You think a higher power didn't KNOW what the possibilites were when giving free will to humans...to kill, to rape, to steal.

You are about to have a whole lot of enemies on this site if this flourishes. Poor thing.

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Re: New coven
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Post # 5
Sir_Prize here is my explanation.

(5) Yes, essentially they are the same, but they are different in some ways because of the difference of Islam, Catholicism, and Christianity.

(1) I don't want people to destroy demons on sight. Only if they are creating darkness in the world. The Necromancers have full right to retaliate in any way he/she sees fit. We believe in different things Sir_Prize. Do not judge me because we share different beliefs.

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Re: New coven
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Post # 6
Sir Prize , and Healer ,

Maybe they think they are The charmed ones .. ( fighting demons ) Gee More of frivoulos Covens or should I say useless .

anyway The Templers were Christian and very skilled soldiers at the time of the crusades , their fate in the end though didnt mean much to the pope , as they became powerful and rich , they became enimies of the church and of the King james ( I believe .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar
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Re: New coven
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Post # 7
I am not going to beat on your beleifs, i have been there before. The first question I have to ask you is what is light and dark, is it something you thaught up where to draw the line or is it something you were taught? What if you are wrong? Spiritual battle is always been around even before our ancestors ancestors, there is a balance between light and dark, and you would be surprised how dark white can be. There is no need to battle demons honestly unless you just want to ward the off yourself or somebody want you to ward them off them. You do not want to interupt the balance, trust me. Just like i told one of my friends white, black, green, nechro, whatever you choose; energy is energy it is natural and the same regardless of where it comes from. Everybody just gets it in there head that"hey that is evil" when infact it can be inocent.
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Re: New coven
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Post # 8
Necromancy is far more vast then summoning of dead spirits,again if you want proof ask higher spiritual sources such as demons,angels,gods.Or use universe.Dont take wikipedia and few writers as ultimate source of knowledge upon necromancy.

DARK horned god is first primal god,known as khaos.There is also Death and its "brother" Sataneal which is lumination and shade.And many other dark gods ho helped and aided humans and even created light in any form or shape.

Why would light kill darkness?The reason exists in minds of tiny minded ignorant people,and only there.They are harmony of each other thus they love each other.All gods are even little bit beyond both light and darkness and all thus would aid little in crusade of ignorance against dark.

Thats just few random thoughts...
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Re: New coven
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Post # 9
One thing I would like to mention is this:

Darkness and Light both exist in this realm for a Purpose. They cause a balance of things. If you had not noticed, nature and energy tends towards balance.

If you were to "cleanse and destroy" Darkness, light would be unopposed. And thereby condemning the world to imbalance.


Too much Light invites stagnation and lack of change or growth.

Too much Darkness invites a release of passions to do As they see fit, usually ending in total mayhem.


We Need a balance of things.

Also, one can BE of the Darkness and still do "good" as "good" and "evil" is Perspective, where Dark and Light is more of a chosen alignment or innate talent.


To be Dark is to be at one with Darkness, Not to be "evil". You will find that not all those whom are Light are "good".

I, Personally, Consider myself of Darkness aspect. I am also a Necromancer. Personally I have employed the Essence of Death to great effect in Healing others. According to your description, this would mean that I ought to be cleansed and destroyed yes?

If you feel willing to share knowledge and help others with a coven, power to you. But you must realize that restricting membership based on Choice of skill is kin to bigotry.

Any energy can harm as well as heal. That is another example of Balance in ALL things. One must know how to heal to harm, and how to harm to heal. Its knowledge that goes hand in hand, and only the choices of the individual ever changes that.

I hope you can see where I, and others posting, are coming from with this.
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Re: New coven
By: / Adept
Post # 10
Well said.
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